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After destroying hamas military abilities in the North , the search continues whilst offensive front opens southwards
 
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After Andy finished playing in the sand pit, he turned around, shît in his own hand and proceeded to fling it against the wall while maniacally laughing and having a great time....
 
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multitool

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CXRAndy said:
After destroying hamas military abilities in the North , the search continues whilst offensive front opens southwards
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Yes, Andy.

It's called ethnic-cleansing. Push civilians out of their homes under threat of death, to 'safe haven' in south. Then attack south.

Next step will be Rafah crossing opening up and tented city in the Sinai. All being cheered on by horrid little pricks like you.

https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1725540373085520051?s=20

This is from the Spectator. That right-wing rag. Even they can see what is actually happening.
 
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multitool

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From the horses mouth. The disgusting Regev now telling Palestinians to leave Khan Younis under threat of death... the place the told Gazans to flee too.

https://x.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1725573520082563492?s=20

Those of us with prior knowledge of the Israel-Palestine conflict will know that in 1956, Israeli forces entered the Palestinian town of Khan Younis, rounded up all males over 15, and massacred them.

That's right. They murdered children. And they got away with it scott-free.
 
dutchguylivingintheuk

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glasgowcyclist said:
What do you mean by saying the quoted phrase ‘says it all’?
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exactly what is says, that is nothing, just like a term like ''less accurate than usual in such a conflict '' says nothing at all. other than a cop-out for using unreliable information.
For example that rocket strike on that hospital which where Claimed Israeli rockets turn out to be a misfired Hamas one,(at least that is what all independed experts say) Hamas still claimed 500 people killed, realistic estimates are between 10-300 quite a difference, if that happens on a large scale it says a lot about the accuracy or their numbers right?
And about birth records and such, in a other war a country called Russia has people that are declared death and visited their own grave. In Palestina it's very unlikely from a refugee camp they would be able to do this.
And then there is the fact that Hamas fighters often fight in civilian clothes, so they counted as civilian death while in fact they should be combatants

All uphill said:
Hamas are horrible? Yes.
That doesn't automatically mean the IDF are good guys, @dutchguylivingintheuk .
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I never claimed that, hell most of my post point out they aren't
All uphill said:
Hamas were wrong to kill people on 7/10? Yes.
That doesn't automatically mean it's right to kill Palestinian children.
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I would argue not only children but also the civilians they use as human shields, just as a also stated multiple times that the UN also has a part responablity in this as they kept on supplying materials for the terror tunnels, and kept on keeping the story on of an impoverised area while a significant part of that poverty was created by stealing resources. Lots of children are murdered by Hamas for example because they do not have access to clean water.

multitool said:
Let's be honest, what the Israelis are furious about is that Hamas gave them a very condensed form of the sort of violence the Palestinians have been experiencing year on year for 70 years. Hamas squeezed a whole year's worth of casualties into one day. Israel probably contributed a little to their own death toll.
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Hamas doesn't need Isreal to kill it's own population, they are very good in doing so themselves. 70 years is a common trick, pile everything up to make it look even worse, leaving out the fact Hamas itself doesn't exist for that long.
But the point still not changed is that Palestinians can live in Isreal but Jews in gaza(forcefully evicted from Gaza in ''05, to make room for the palestinian state, see how that worked out) are virtually non-existent.
On the other hand when Isreal opens applications for palestinians to move to Isreal there are always long lines to get that, so the Hamas state that is so great has long lines to live in a country they according to Hamas need to despise and intensly hate.. something doesn't add up.

multitool said:
The extreme arrogance of the Israelis is that this should not happen to them because Holocaust, despite their willingness to do exactly to thr same for a lifetime to the Palestinians
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Yeah right, let's take a few headlines from random western media after a Hamas/palestinian terrorist attack ''Jewish communities police extra protection'', ''missing children pictures removed/defaced etc.'' , '' jewish children can't go to school safely'' etc. Now there are a few media that claim muslims/palestinians(still about europe) don't feel safe etc. but there are no muslim/palestinian children that can't go school because they don't feel safe.


multitool said:
They are more than happy that Palestinian should have been dying in droves every year because, in the eyes of Israelis*, Palestinians are sub-human
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In the eyes of Hamas they are, and so in the eyes of some (prominent) Saudi's. But before October the 7th the most effective in killing Palestinian children was Hamas.
multitool said:
This racism is mirrored in western pro-Israel nations. Palestinian suffering has been minimised and Israeli suffering maximised, for decades.
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Any facts for this statement or are you just following whatever facebook group tells you is correct? BEcause it isn't stated in facts, hell long before Isreal invaded Gaza days after the very brutal attack the general tone was ''Yes Terrible what they did to Isreal BUT Isreal isn't very nice either''

multitool said:
People like our resident bigot, Andy, are too dim, too intellectually lazy, and frankly just too much of an A-hole to deconstruct the language used and the implicit messages it imparts and instead just internalise the implicit messages without a thought.
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Oh yeah that line ''you are all so dumb because i am smart so you should listen to what i have to tell you as i look down on you from this immense height to educate you..''
Sorry to tell you, you're an tiny person, and even if you go stand on that soapbox, you still a tiny person, in every sentence of that word, even if you would measure 6ft9 on the measuring thing, you still a tiny person for writing those words above here, trying to place yourself above others by claiming their post are less valid because you don't agree with them.
multitool said:
*not all Israelis, but those of us who have been to Israel, and met a representative number of Israelis with whom they have conversed will have been shocked by their racism, disregard for Palestinian lives and life, and sheer breath-taking arrogance.
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Yeah no all of them only the ones that look like jews right? oh wait they have to follow your standards for being a good jew.. Just like Hitler said and gassed them anyway.

multitool said:
The analogies with Nazis are fraught with difficulties, and leave one open to cheap accusations of anti-semitism, but if you've ever wondered how an intellectual, educated and civilised nation like the Germans could have ended up carrying out a genocide, maybe take a trip to Israel.
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Yet your doing an fine job using the same hate tome make Palestinians look like the victims and Jews like the offenders with friends everywhere. You couldn't be more wrong, as in western world both sides have strong support, both public and political, yet jews are always the ones needing extra protection. Do you dare to name why that is the case? or are you cowardly going to ignore this part of the post?
 
dutchguylivingintheuk

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multitool said:
Here you go, Andy.

Here's something that has managed to slip out from behind the Israeli censors.

https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1725509200913014838?s=20

What do you think is actually happening in Gaza, you absolute dumbass. Imagine for a moment that this was your son.
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You are the dumbass, no evidence that it is an Isreali weapon, that account is full off Gaza did Gaza that, so not really an good source now it it?
terrible for that man and his son, but war is hell, no need to try and involve people's emotions to make an point based on nothing but a bad source. This topic would have 200 pages if i used the same low standards to post everything..
 
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