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With that premise You could say allied forces in the second world war bombing German cities was genocide?
 
Bazzer

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CXRAndy said:
Well you could say Germany speak for a perspective of expertise re genocide. They know what they're talking about.

This is war, attrocities occur, non fighting get killed, but by international definition Israel hasn't committed genocide..

There will be many, many thousands in these totals killed, who are hamas fighters.

I read there are over 25000 hamas fighters. Let's for arguments sake, say half have been killed out of the 'alleged' total deaths.

Kind of puts the second paragraph into better perspective.
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It is estimated that of the total deaths, up to 10,000 children have been killed. Were these Hamas fighters too?
 
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Bazzer said:
It is estimated that of the total deaths, up to 10,000 children have been killed. Were these Hamas fighters too?
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You see these are estimates, no one knows for sure. There can't be no hamas casualties or who is firing the weapons. Who entered Israel on the 7th October.

I estimate at least half of the estimated deaths are hamas. Take that information with a pinch of salt too
 
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C R said:
Even at the time there was great unease about the firebombing raids.
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But no genocide cases brought after the war. USA wasn't brought to the Hague over nuclear bomb drops on the Japanese
 
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CXRAndy said:
But no genocide cases brought after the war. USA wasn't brought to the Hague over nuclear bomb drops on the Japanese
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The USA didn't invade Japan and sweep through the country pushing all civilians ahead of them onto an ever decreasing space. Ditto the allied forces in Europe.
 
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cookiemonster said:
Show the evidence from a 'reliable' source.

You have mentioned this BS several times but, to date, no evidence.

Evidence or tell the voices in your head to STFU.
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No if you get shown evidence, you claim it's not evidence because it isn't compactible with your copium. But speaking of evidence, where is the evidence of the very exact death toll you are quoting? and can you also prove it doesn't include Hamas fighters? I can tell you right now, no you can't even if you think you can.

But i will show you below, from some reason you think youre so important the respond in 3 times

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Bullshit! No evidence of that.
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Look! it has it's own wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion
The only one who says it's came from Isreal is Hamas and friends... the official death toll is also put to question... your Hamas provided 27k number under further scrutiny, i wouldn't say it but it's looks like your obsession with quoting your Hamas friends sounds abit like Bullshit! (i can even share a tweet from someone who has way more credentials then you or me to say why does numbers are most likely very very off)
 
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C R said:
The USA didn't invade Japan and sweep through the country pushing all civilians ahead of them onto an ever decreasing space. Ditto the allied forces in Europe.
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Nonsense comparison, first off Japan is not next to the USA second off, the US was not invaded in the way the Hamas terrorist did on the 7 off October, if the US was in the same position imagine hypnotically they would have the same neighbor's at Hamas same size etc. they would have responded the same.
Worth mentioning also that the IDF so far has destroyed 700 rocket launch installations, 700! (according to the idf just to be clear) How else then the operation they started now would they ensure their borders?
Instead of the people in the west amplifying the voices of those in Gaza who say !fark Hamas! it's their fault, in the west those who blame Isreal and openly hate Jews are taking the street. Making Adolf proud from his grave.. Yes that lady at the tribunal was right ''we should be ashamed'' but not for the reasons she mentions, for the reasons that even after an extremely voilent terrorist attack, that saw a lot of people killed, tortured and killed, raped raped and killed just for the fact of being Jew, and instead of condemning Hamas for it people go into the streets screaming Gaza and often also supporting Hamas.. Indeed we should be ashamed..
 
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cookiemonster said:
They didn't. They warned them to move then bombed them where they moved to.

Supplies are not getting in.
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So Hamas hide in civilian population then get bombed still. May as well just bomb everyone, you could call it genocide then. South Africa are talking nonsense. It’s very BAD what they’re doing but it’s not genocide. They could wrap the G word up in a few days easily.
 
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dutchguylivingintheuk said:
Nonsense comparison, first off Japan is not next to the USA second off, the US was not invaded in the way the Hamas terrorist did on the 7 off October, if the US was in the same position imagine hypnotically they would have the same neighbor's at Hamas same size etc. they would have responded the same.
Worth mentioning also that the IDF so far has destroyed 700 rocket launch installations, 700! (according to the idf just to be clear) How else then the operation they started now would they ensure their borders?
Instead of the people in the west amplifying the voices of those in Gaza who say !fark Hamas! it's their fault, in the west those who blame Isreal and openly hate Jews are taking the street. Making Adolf proud from his grave.. Yes that lady at the tribunal was right ''we should be ashamed'' but not for the reasons she mentions, for the reasons that even after an extremely voilent terrorist attack, that saw a lot of people killed, tortured and killed, raped raped and killed just for the fact of being Jew, and instead of condemning Hamas for it people go into the streets screaming Gaza and often also supporting Hamas.. Indeed we should be ashamed..
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Have you stopped beating your partner yet?
 
Bazzer

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CXRAndy said:
You see these are estimates, no one knows for sure. There can't be no hamas casualties or who is firing the weapons. Who entered Israel on the 7th October.

I estimate at least half of the estimated deaths are hamas. Take that information with a pinch of salt too
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You seem to be suggesting that your estimate of the number of Hamas deaths is more acceptable than the estimate provided by others of the number of child deaths.
Given the extensive and seemingly indiscriminate bombing of heavily populated areas by the Israelis, a high proportion of child and non Hamas deaths would appear inevitable.
 
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