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Milzy

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67102956

Putin style. 'We have ways of making you ***'

They are more racist than Russian orks though.
 

multitool

Guest
"their narrative"

Trumpian bullshit, Milzy.

'The media' is not some sort of hivemind. It is an ill-defined concept in the age of social media and the internet. Some , lets call them 'outlets reported it, some didn't. Usually the accountable media are careful to corroborate.


If there is a "narrative", then there is not one narrative, there are many, which is why you will find Al Jazeera and Kan 11 broadcasting events with different emphasis.
 
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40 babies decapitated was a complete lie but the media just still had to report it knowing they have no confirmation of any evidence. Never let facts get in the way of their narrative.
If only that where true, fact is children and babies are killed, whether or not some of them had their head cut off is a next one, it seemed to be confirmed on some point and later they kind of backed tracked on the point of beheading's, mind you not on the fact that there are baby's killed. I assume the impact of a shot with a heavy calliber might make it looked like they where.

The thruth is often the first victim in the war, just like the Russia Ukraine war both sides use misinformation, both sides have some media on their hand and on both sides you also have independants.
 

Milzy

Well-Known Member
It is an absolute minefield with the information wars. Isn't it interesting how in modern times most inferior technology seems to overpower the more advanced one? In 9/11 we were told cave dwellers outsmarted the most sophisticated military intelligence in the world. Now we're supposed to believe throwbacks with lawnmowers and blankets got passed the "IRON DOME"? Did you see those drones drop explosives on the auto machine gun turrets? Why have a rave only 3 miles away from the Gaza Strip? Wtf is going on here? Do people think anymore? Then when they get their revenge soon what then? Terrorist attacks all over the world again. It’s an impossible situation. If Isreal were allowed to flatten the whole of Gaza, displace the remaining population they would do just that.
 
40 babies decapitated was a complete lie but the media just still had to report it knowing they have no confirmation of any evidence. Never let facts get in the way of their narrative.

It was reported by CNN on their TV and social media, in print by the Times and Daily Mail, and on the BBC website by a reporter who was at the kibbutz. Yesterday the Mail were saying a coroner confirmed it. When clearer accounts emerge I think it's possible that some bodies were so badly damaged that they may have appeared to have been decapitated to the soldiers who were first on the scene. It's not always a media conspiracy.
 
It is an absolute minefield with the information wars. Isn't it interesting how in modern times most inferior technology seems to overpower the more advanced one?
On itself that is nothing new, because technology still requires people to monitor them, so that is the weakest link. That's also why you can have zero accident highways if we would switch to fully automated driving. (note that it currently only works on something like a highway, it becomes more tricky if it needs to interact with humans like in a city centre for example)

In 9/11 we were told cave dwellers outsmarted the most sophisticated military intelligence in the world.
Like always terrorist find ways to surprise, similar how hackers find ways to exploit the most advanced systems in the world
Now we're supposed to believe throwbacks with lawnmowers and blankets got passed the "IRON DOME"? Did you see those drones drop explosives on the auto machine gun turrets?
They got past the wall of steel Iron Dome didn't come in to play as that is an air defence system, drones are a bit of a grey area, as also seen in the Ukraine War, older type of guns like the gepard are far more effective against drones. There are many reasons why they got past, combinations of isrealis not spending enough having less forces on the border in combination with lots of intelligence gathered by Hamas and their helpers like Iran and it's proxies

Why have a rave only 3 miles away from the Gaza Strip? Wtf is going on here? Do people think anymore?
because people wat to live have fun and things like that.
Then when they get their revenge soon what then? Terrorist attacks all over the world again. It’s an impossible situation.
Can't really blame Isreal for uncontrolled immigration but when a Hamas guy calls for something and it leads to wide protest like we have seen it does tell something sadly. It tells something about a part of society that has at least part of his loyalty elsewhere.


If Isreal were allowed to flatten the whole of Gaza, displace the remaining population they would do just that.
think their well on their way, on the other hand, Hamas was still able to fire off some rockets this morning so their clearly not there yet.
 

C R

Über Member
It was reported by CNN on their TV and social media, in print by the Times and Daily Mail, and on the BBC website by a reporter who was at the kibbutz. Yesterday the Mail were saying a coroner confirmed it. When clearer accounts emerge I think it's possible that some bodies were so badly damaged that they may have appeared to have been decapitated to the soldiers who were first on the scene. It's not always a media conspiracy.

The CNN reporter has withdrawn the report and apologised, her tweet is further up thread.
 

craigwend

Do you Remember
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BoldonLad

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It is an absolute minefield with the information wars. Isn't it interesting how in modern times most inferior technology seems to overpower the more advanced one? In 9/11 we were told cave dwellers outsmarted the most sophisticated military intelligence in the world. Now we're supposed to believe throwbacks with lawnmowers and blankets got passed the "IRON DOME"? Did you see those drones drop explosives on the auto machine gun turrets? Why have a rave only 3 miles away from the Gaza Strip? Wtf is going on here? Do people think anymore? Then when they get their revenge soon what then? Terrorist attacks all over the world again. It’s an impossible situation. If Isreal were allowed to flatten the whole of Gaza, displace the remaining population they would do just that.

The weak link in all security, no matter how technologically advanced, is people.
 
The CNN reporter has withdrawn the report and apologised, her tweet is further up thread.

I'm aware of that. My point is that it was reported by several different credible outlets at the time, informed by different sources, and further that such reports are not always a media conspiracy or always deliberate misinformation.
 
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