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dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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AndyRM said:
I don't disagree but as reports are suggesting the targeting hasn't been completely effective. How could it be? There's no way of knowing who's actually holding a device when you blow it up unless you're in front of them.
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They where issued to the military, so most of the targets would then be military, doesn't off course mean they can 100% rule out civilian casualties.
 
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albion

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matticus said:
Surely that was all about oats. No?!?
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The road to the Aycliffe station is called Pease Way, I believe.
https://www.quakersintheworld.org/quakers-in-action/360/The-Pease-Family

The success of the railway also helped Joseph Pease become the first MP for the new South Durham parliamentary constituency.
 
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dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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AndyRM said:
Israel seems quite chuffed with what they've achieved in the last few days.
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Considering Hezbollah is and was using war-language earlier and committed hostile acts against Israel, their pager attack might be creative but all aimed as accepted targets in war.
Libanon/HezBollah however alltough claiming to hit militray targets they killed a few cows. Surprises me nobody started to cry about them(idf) hitting civilian houses but there is many evidence of secondary explosions meaning Hezbollah hides weapons in civilian houses.
 
AndyRM

AndyRM

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dutchguylivingintheuk said:
Considering Hezbollah is and was using war-language earlier and committed hostile acts against Israel, their pager attack might be creative but all aimed as accepted targets in war.
Libanon/HezBollah however alltough claiming to hit militray targets they killed a few cows. Surprises me nobody started to cry about them(idf) hitting civilian houses but there is many evidence of secondary explosions meaning Hezbollah hides weapons in civilian houses.
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Quality selective quote there.

There really is no wrong that Israel can do in your eyes, is there?
 
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dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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AndyRM said:
Quality selective quote there.

There really is no wrong that Israel can do in your eyes, is there?
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Talking about selective, i have criticized Isreal on more than one occasion, but somehow you seem to mis that every time.
I have yet to see any post from you at least have some criticism for Hamas and friends.

(oh and bonus, albeit renamed there is something like ''gays for gaza'' lookie https://www.them.us/story/lgbtq-solidarity-palestine-saed-atshan and article with really stupid reasoning to claim it wouldn't be like chicken for Kfc, what off course it is, for the very reasons they use to say the opposite.)
 
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AndyRM

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dutchguylivingintheuk said:
Talking about selective, i have criticized Isreal on more than one occasion, but somehow you seem to mis that every time.
I have yet to see any post from you at least have some criticism for Hamas and friends.

(oh and bonus, albeit renamed there is something like ''gays for gaza'' lookie https://www.them.us/story/lgbtq-solidarity-palestine-saed-atshan and article with really stupid reasoning to claim it wouldn't be like chicken for Kfc, what off course it is, for the very reasons they use to say the opposite.)
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If you have, then mea culpa. Clearly you've missed my criticism of Hamas too.

That is sort of like "Gays for Gaza" I suppose, but there's a reason the organised support list is anonymised, some of which are outlined in that article.
 
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dutchguylivingintheuk

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AndyRM said:
If you have, then mea culpa. Clearly you've missed my criticism of Hamas too.
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I have said it multiple times in multiple ways, but no i don't think Idf/isreali's are angels at all.
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That is sort of like "Gays for Gaza" I suppose, but there's a reason the organised support list is anonymised, some of which are outlined in that article.
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Yes, i find it silly to defend something hell bound as to branding it ''the oppressed etc.'' while the bottom line seems to come down to wheter by choice or ignorance supporting Hamas, and Hamas is the oppressor in Gaza that they in turn are oppressed by Isreal is a next one. (one could argue Hamas was before their attack more somekind of controlled opposition, basically the same mistake the US made with Saddam. )

But even without Hamas it's extrmely unlikely the position of Gay/queer/etc. people would be any better in Gaza (and only slightly better in Isreal)
 
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AuroraSaab

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AndyRM said:
If you have, then mea culpa. Clearly you've missed my criticism of Hamas too.

That is sort of like "Gays for Gaza" I suppose, but there's a reason the organised support list is anonymised, some of which are outlined in that article.
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Gays for Gaza is a bit Turkeys for Christmas ... but if you honestly believe a person/group/country/demographic are unfairly oppressed (not specifically meaning Gaza here) then I don't see the contradiction in campaigning for that person or group. You should believe in them having the same rights as others, regardless of whether they would see you lose yours if they had the power.
 
AndyRM

AndyRM

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The last two posts on this thread are absolutely wild considering the posters contributions on this thread and others on this forum.
 
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albion

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The tone of the Israeli bombing spokesman on radio feels, probably wrongly, AI generated.

Whatever, it sounds very sinister.
 
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