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I told before arsëhole, you don't know me. If we both had grown in Iran I'm fairly sure you'd be a basiji enjoying sending people like me to Evin.
Have you stopped abusing your wife? Still don't like the mirror don't you?
 

multitool

Pharaoh

The Gaza war pales into insignificance against the Syrian civil war in which around 500,000 people died prior to the ousting of Assad. Corbyn did not march against that. Indeed, he was roundly criticised whilst leader of the Labour party for refusing to condemn Assad at the time of the chemical attacks by Assad on his own population, much as he refused to point the finger at Putin after the Salisbury Novichok poisonings, despite there being several precedents of dangerous poisonings on UK soil (Polonium trail in London) and deliberately blatant assassinations of dissidents.

It could be argued that the Gaza war is different in that the belligerent, Israel, is a nominal UK ally to whom the UK supplies weapons, whereas no weapons are supplied to Syria and the Syrian regime was regarded as hostile. In which case one has to wonder why Corbyn, and his gaggle of bearded moral puritans who have the insouciant air of knowing they are always absolutely unassailably right about everything, have not agitated and frequently marched against Saudi Arabia which has been prosecuting a war against Iranian-backed Houthi rebels for a decade using plenty of equipment supplied by the UK.

Corbyn is selective about who he opposes because deep down he still has a small hard on for the Soviet Union and still views the world with the infantile understanding of a first year university student, possibly because the first year was his only experience of student politics. Corbyn has the luxury of this view because he has never been in the position of having to exist and work with actual world leaders who have to take a more nuanced balanced view because realpolitik is a thing.

It is often said by those closest to Corbyn that he never really wanted to be in power, and in the light of the previous paragraph you can see why. He would have had to leave the comfortable sanctity of the easily occupied moral high ground and would have been expected to achieve actual tangible results rather than self-indulgent virtue signalling.

Ghastly though they most definitely are, the Israeli right (which is most of them) has a point about the Corbyns of this world.

(written in total awareness of the fact that theclaud will be along shortly to post 'rent free', before indulging herself in a tasty deep rim of Corbyn whilst erecting some sort of baited straw man in the form of Starmer)
 
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theclaud

Reading around the chip
LOL. I'm so old, I remember when 100-odd Labour MPs sabotaged their own party's motion to suspend arms sales to the Saudis. 2016, if anyone's asking...
 
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Ian H

Legendary Member
LOL. I'm so old, I remember when 100-odd Labour MPs sabotaged their own party's motion to suspend arms sales to the Saudis. 2016, if anyone's asking...
Also, from 2021:
I was elected on a manifesto that committed to immediately suspending arms sales to Saudi Arabia and to reforming the “international rules-based order to secure justice and accountability for breaches of human rights and international law, such as the indiscriminate bombardment of civilians in Yemen. I stand by those commitments.
 

C R

Veteran
The Gaza war pales into insignificance against the Syrian civil war in which around 500,000 people died prior to the ousting of Assad. Corbyn did not march against that. Indeed, he was roundly criticised whilst leader of the Labour party for refusing to condemn Assad at the time of the chemical attacks by Assad on his own population, much as he refused to point the finger at Putin after the Salisbury Novichok poisonings, despite there being several precedents of dangerous poisonings on UK soil (Polonium trail in London) and deliberately blatant assassinations of dissidents.

It could be argued that the Gaza war is different in that the belligerent, Israel, is a nominal UK ally to whom the UK supplies weapons, whereas no weapons are supplied to Syria and the Syrian regime was regarded as hostile. In which case one has to wonder why Corbyn, and his gaggle of bearded moral puritans who have the insouciant air of knowing they are always absolutely unassailably right about everything, have not agitated and frequently marched against Saudi Arabia which has been prosecuting a war against Iranian-backed Houthi rebels for a decade using plenty of equipment supplied by the UK.

Corbyn is selective about who he opposes because deep down he still has a small hard on for the Soviet Union and still views the world with the infantile understanding of a first year university student, possibly because the first year was his only experience of student politics. Corbyn has the luxury of this view because he has never been in the position of having to exist and work with actual world leaders who have to take a more nuanced balanced view because realpolitik is a thing.

It is often said by those closest to Corbyn that he never really wanted to be in power, and in the light of the previous paragraph you can see why. He would have had to leave the comfortable sanctity of the easily occupied moral high ground and would have been expected to achieve actual tangible results rather than self-indulgent virtue signalling.

Ghastly though they most definitely are, the Israeli right (which is most of them) has a point about the Corbyns of this world.

(written in total awareness of the fact that theclaud will be along shortly to post 'rent free', before indulging herself in a tasty deep rim of Corbyn whilst erecting some sort of baited straw man in the form of Starmer)

Gish gallop
 

theclaud

Reading around the chip
Yeah.

Those anti-Saudi marches.

Quite something weren't they.

What's your point, caller?
 

multitool

Pharaoh
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AndyRM

Elder Goth
This, from the Beeb article suggests it might be a bit of a waste of time...

In a post on X, external on Saturday, the Met posted a photo of what it described as a group "that forced its way through the police line" being held at the north-west corner of Trafalgar Square.

In response, Corbyn said in a separate separate post, external: "This is not an accurate description of events at all".

"I was part of a delegation of speakers, who wished to peacefully carry and lay flowers in memory of children in Gaza who had been killed."

"This was facilitated by the police. We did not force our way through."
 
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