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CXRAndy

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Again I don't have information to dispute these figures but Germany seems to be collating them better, and it not just Germany Many other countries are experiencing similar atrocious acts

Numbers directly from the German Parliament:
More than 1100 terrorism cases
959 related to Islamic terrorism
234 related to ISIS
151 cases of international non Islamic terrorism
6 cases of right wing domestic terrorism

Germany has had 5 terror attacks alone this past 12 months
 

CXRAndy

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Not alienating a sector of the British population might be a start, Mr Troll.

After all, it's your gang of flabby spittle-flecked goons that kept telling us all about the bad things that would happen if they weren't listened to.

You see, the huge irony is that people like the 7/7 bombers and your hero, Yaxley-Lennon, are actually just two sides of the same shîtty coin.

Extremists are, by definition, extremists. They don't represent the population as a whole. If they did there would have been tens of thousands of attacks rather than not more than I can count on my fingers.

Nice try, Mr Genuine Concern.

But you have to look to places where they don't have problems or very few. Poland and Hungary, surely there is a reasoned explanation
 

Psamathe

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Well you came up with a statitics that showed ''right wing extremist'' are 19% of the workload of security services in response to an twitter video claiming it's strange organisations like muslim botherhood aren't banned in the Uk.
Actually the Government came up with those figures (and I just quoted them as one assumes they are a moderately reliable source). Also the figures related to referals to prevent not workload of security services.
So do you disagree with the statement that an organization deemed a terrorist organization in many countries in Europe, US and many other countries(Egypt for example) should at least be considered to be banned in the uk as well?
Not a question I can answer as "many countries" can be a bit intangeable eg in Hungary, Italy, Switzerland, etc. and I guess a lot would depend on detailed assessments probably much based on information not in the public domain. So I'm not in a position to judge.

Ian
 

Psamathe

Well-Known Member
Maybe posters need to clarify if they are discussing extremists or terrorist attacks as one moment they are quoting "extremism" then arguing "terrorism" numbers.

How often do the far-right point out the extremism threat from the far-right? How many sentenced in court for their involvement in the Southport riots? (and to get involved in such attacks I probably consider them "extremist"). That said I can only guess as to the background beliefs of those sentenced.

Ian
 

multitool

Pharaoh
Can't imagine what it was that suddenly made the UK a target for Islamic extremist attacks 20 years ago :whistle:

Nor what seismic events in the middle east triggered the birth of ISIS, which, in turn, led to the civil war in Syria and Iraq with a million deaths (!) and the dispersion of so many desperate people from war-torn countries into western Europe, a tiny fraction of one percent of whom belonged to extremist groups

What was that phrase? Oh yeah. FAFO.
 
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Can't imagine what it was that suddenly made the UK a target for Islamic extremist attacks 20 years ago :whistle:

Nor what seismic events in the middle east triggered the birth of ISIS, which, in turn, led to the civil war in Syria and Iraq with a million deaths (!) and the dispersion of so many desperate people from war-torn countries into western Europe, a tiny fraction of one percent of whom belonged to extremist groups

What was that phrase? Oh yeah. FAFO.
Which in turn was triggered by an islamic terrorist attack on the US... which kind of undermines your point..
 
So basically, a non US life is worth 0.003 US lives. And Iraq had nothing to do with the 11th of September attacks. Saudi Arabia on the other hand, and we haven't bombed them yet.
I don't claim us actions are propotional, the second Iraq war was part of the war against terror. And Saudi did work with US authorities to procecute and arrest terrorist on their territory Taliban refused that's why they where attacked and the saudi's did not
 

C R

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I don't claim us actions are propotional, the second Iraq war was part of the war against terror. And Saudi did work with US authorities to procecute and arrest terrorist on their territory Taliban refused that's why they where attacked and the saudi's did not

Nevermind.
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
At least nobody died.
In Miami a Jewish man shoots at two people he thought were Palestinians. He told police 'he saw two Palestinians and shot and killed both'. In fact they were Jewish Israeli tourists. Neither was seriously injured.
Further complicating the incident, one of the injured men reportedly posted “death to the Arabs” in a message on social media after the shooting. “My father and I went through a murder attempt against antisemitic background,”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/17/miami-shooting-israeli-men
 

Psamathe

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And looking like Israel has broken its agreement on the Lebanon ceasefire. They haven't left but decided they are staying in places. Deadline for their departure passed.

Ian
 
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And looking like Israel has broken its agreement on the Lebanon ceasefire. They haven't left but decided they are staying in places. Deadline for their departure passed.

Ian
In all fairness Hezbollah has broken international agreements for years on end as they knew the Lebanon army couldn't beat them as they where being bolstered by Iran.
 
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