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That BBC report also had this nugget of bullshıt:

The group has been fighting a war with Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip for almost two years, triggered by its attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023.”
 
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spen666

Senior Member
That BBC report also had this nugget of bullshıt:

The group has been fighting a war with Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip for almost two years, triggered by its attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023.”

Can't bring yourself to condemn this killing of innocent civilians?
 

C R

Guru
I guess those who oppose the killing of innocent civilians by armed forces have not overlooked this story
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr70ny0l7vgo
Especially when this comment appears in the story

Or are those innocent civilians lives not as important as that of others killed? ( Isn't that attitude, if held, racist?)

Either killing of civilians is wrong or it isn't

Hamas are ärseholes, who would have thunk it.
 

spen666

Senior Member
The post right after yours did.
I’m one of several people who ‘liked’ it.

Try paying attention before jumping in.

You are trying to get away with avoiding condemning the killing of innocent civilians by saying someone else condemned it.

You are just highlighting your refusal to condemn the killing of these innocent civilians...is it because of their nationality?
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
You are trying to get away with avoiding condemning the killing of innocent civilians by saying someone else condemned it.

You are just highlighting your refusal to condemn the killing of these innocent civilians...is it because of their nationality?

Do we all have to stand around solemnly swearing that we find the killing of civilians a very bad thing before we can move on?

You get exercised about singling out the poster, rather than their posts, on other threads, so why are you turning the tables here?
 

C R

Guru
You are trying to get away with avoiding condemning the killing of innocent civilians by saying what about Hamas.

You are just highlighting your refusal to condemn the killing of these innocent civilians...is it because of their nationality?
 

Mr Celine

Senior Member
Can't bring yourself to condemn this killing of innocent civilians?

If in your strange world every instance of innocent civilians being killed must be individually condemned you've rather a lot of catching up to do.
 

matticus

Guru
Road.cc reports that in an interview with Danish TV Jonas Vingegaard defended the protests.

Yeah, i read that interview. He seemed to be very careful with his words (probably had some team PR briefing), but I liked what he said:
Basically, these people have a right to protest, to be seen - they understandably feel very strongly about their cause.

The last few stages I've noticed lots of normal-sized flags being waved safely, by average-looking fans on the packed mountain sections. Which is good.
 
You are trying to get away with avoiding condemning the killing of innocent civilians by saying someone else condemned it.

I’ve expressed my view on the killing of civilians. Not my fault your comprehension skills are inadequate.

You are just highlighting your refusal to condemn the killing of these innocent civilians...is it because of their nationality?

I don’t recall you ever pressing anyone to condemn any of the killings of tens of thousands of civilian men, women and children in Gaza over the last 23 months by Israel and its occupation forces.

Why is that?

I mean, there are dozens of Palestinian civilians killed by Israel every day, so it’s not like there’s rarely the opportunity.
 

spen666

Senior Member
I’ve expressed my view on the killing of civilians. Not my fault your comprehension skills are inadequate.



I don’t recall you ever pressing anyone to condemn any of the killings of tens of thousands of civilian men, women and children in Gaza over the last 23 months by Israel and its occupation forces.

Why is that?

I mean, there are dozens of Palestinian civilians killed by Israel every day, so it’s not like there’s rarely the opportunity.

I am quite happy to state that I condemn the killing of innocent civilians anywhere, whatever their race religion or creed and by whomever, including, but not limited to the killing of Palestinians and Israeli's in the Middle East

Are you prepared to follow suit?
 

Psamathe

Veteran
I see that HM Government under Kier Starmer have confirmed in writing that Israel's actions in Gaza do not amount to genocide

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/israel-war-gaza-not-genocide-david-lammy-22wdsmt90

the words of our now Deputy Prime minister last week when he was still Home Secretary.

I am sure many people will be surprised at this
Without paying there is no date on the article so no idea how historic it might be.

But, from Wikipedia (so with links to citation sources) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation
According to a United Nations special committee,[129] Amnesty International,[130] Médecins Sans Frontières,[131] B'Tselem,[132] Physicians for Human Rights–Israel,[133] International Federation for Human Rights,[134] numerous genocide studies and international law scholars[135] (including the International Association of Genocide Scholars),[136][137] and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[138][139]
 
I am quite happy to state that I condemn the killing of innocent civilians anywhere, whatever their race religion or creed and by whomever, including, but not limited to the killing of Palestinians and Israeli's in the Middle East

Are you prepared to follow suit?

Christ, you sound like Keir Starmer!

I've already expressed my view.

I'm still left wondering why you haven't made the same demand in relation to individual instances of civilian deaths in Gaza.

Yes, you 'condemn all civilian deaths everywhere blah blah' but you singled out this instance of Israeli deaths and invited condemnation. Why have you never done that with any of the atrocities committed by Israel?
 
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