Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

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I do think it's funny, but if Brits don't want crapola jobs why should foreigners have do do them to serve Brits? Is that the best freedom has to offer? Are we too lazy to organise ourselves for better pay and conditions?
We've got a goverment who never mind workers rights are talking about scrapping human rights.Casuals,zero hour contracts,fire and re hire,sh1t wages which have to be topped up by benefits....can you really see us getting organized for better pay ?
We're going backwards.
 

Unkraut

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Casuals,zero hour contracts,fire and re hire,sh1t wages which have to be topped up by benefits....can you really see us getting organized for better pay ?
We're going backwards.
'It's the sovereignty, stupid' ...^_^
 

Beebo

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On a positive note.
We were given scare stories about Christmas shortages due to Brexit but there were none that I saw.
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
On a positive note.
We were given scare stories about Christmas shortages due to Brexit but there were none that I saw.
I'm not really knowledgeable about the price of Christmas food. Were turkeys always £65?
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Fresh farm bred ones from the butcher are always expensive.
My Turkey was £25. Which is about right IMO.
£65 was a Sainsbury full dressed turkey. We ended up with a small plain turkey crown for £15 which I've no complaints about. I'm all for paying a fair price for food, especially meat, but I couldn't quite believe that amount.
 

farfromtheland

Regular AND Goofy
We've got a goverment who never mind workers rights are talking about scrapping human rights.Casuals,zero hour contracts,fire and re hire,sh1t wages which have to be topped up by benefits....can you really see us getting organized for better pay ?
We're going backwards.
Those are indeed the problems. They need more radical approaches than most TUC affiliated unions have favoured in the last decades, at least at the leadership level.

The higher echelons of the Labour Party's 'appeasement' approach has proved wanting and landed us with Starmer the stooge. However several unions are at the point of disaffiliating from Labour and keeping their political funds for solidarity. Could be interesting.
 

farfromtheland

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By the way, I strongly suspect the big reason Jeremy Corbyn didn't challenge for a general election when he had some chance was that under Labour Party policy he would have had to campaign for 'Leave' and his heart wasn't in that. It would have meant sidelining a lot of good questions.

Corbyn said all through that regeneration of Labour principles and practice had to come from the grass roots. Unfortunately too many people didn't see the way to do this was by rooting out corruption and complacency rather than feeding a leadership cult.
 
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By the way, I strongly suspect the big reason Jeremy Corbyn didn't challenge for a general election when he had some chance was that under Labour Party policy he would have had to campaign for 'Leave' and his heart wasn't in that. It would have meant sidelining a lot of good questions.

Corbyn said all through that regeneration of Labour principles and practice had to come from the grass roots. Unfortunately too many people didn't see the way to do this was by rooting out corruption and complacency rather than feeding a leadership cult.
Strongly suspect ? I strongly suspect that Corbyn campaigned for remain and reform,as in respect the result and try for a close deal with the EU.
But a lot would of said he was a secret leave voter and Sir Kier tried to save us with a second referendum 🙄
No matter what or who is right....remain was a mistake !
 

farfromtheland

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Strongly suspect ? I strongly suspect that Corbyn campaigned for remain and reform,as in respect the result and try for a close deal with the EU.
But a lot would of said he was a secret leave voter and Sir Kier tried to save us with a second referendum 🙄
No matter what or who is right....remain was a mistake !
Whoops = I have timed out for correction! Sorry! I meant to say he would have had to campaign for 'Remain'.

A second referendum would have been farcical.
 

FishFright

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Strongly suspect ? I strongly suspect that Corbyn campaigned for remain and reform,as in respect the result and try for a close deal with the EU.
But a lot would of said he was a secret leave voter and Sir Kier tried to save us with a second referendum 🙄
No matter what or who is right....remain was a mistake !

Corbyn was and is a leaver, one of the few things I really disagreed with. Starmer is bloody useless trying to be a Blair clone.
 
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