Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

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PaulB

Active Member
There isn't a cost of living crisis, it's a cost of leaving crisis.
 
As we knew them they were a bit crap anyway. Time for the open source initiative.
Are they? Employment and consumer rights "a bit crap"?

Do you really think a government whose cabinet members published Britannia Unchained* ("The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor.") can be trusted to improve; the annual leave, sick pay, maternity/paternity leave, protection from unfair dismissal, health and safety at work and pension rights workers have, and the product safety standards, food and drink standards, finance protections consumers have?

The swivel eyed lunatics in the tory party are hell bent on a "bonfire of red tape and regulations." It won't end well for workers, consumers and the environment.

I don't trust the tories who have self interests ahead of worker, consumer and environmental rights and protections.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-laws-boris-johnson-b2004015.html?r=5247

 
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winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
The swivel eyed lunatics in the tory party are hell bent on a "bonfire of red tape and regulations." It won't end well for workers, consumers and the environment.

I don't trust the tories who have self interests ahead of worker, consumer and environmental rights and protections.
Yeah, maybe not gonna make motor vehicles safer for cyclists after all.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-freedom-eu-road-safety-b2009217.html

I expect the result will be that vehicles will be made to the new standards anyway since nobody's going to make anything specifically to sell into to UK market.
 

Mugshot

Über Member

mjr

Active Member
Consumers claim to care about provenance, but they'll usually go for the cheapest on offer.
I think that blame is misplaced. In most products, there is practically no choice of provenance. Yesterday in Morrison's (tempted back through the door after nearly 2 years by a big discount voucher), the choice of honey was between 4 or 5 brands of "blend of non-EU honey" and one NZ manuka. Nothing even UK, let alone local. Flour? French or Canadian.

The Lowest Common Denominator approach of chain store buyers means consumers aren't being given much choice on provenance unless they're willing to become hippie quaxers trundling around the farms, windmills and small local produce shops, and that doesn't really fit with many 9-5er lifestyles. Working from home hasn't yet brought sufficient flexitime to allow weekday daytime shopping.

I feel the best chance of breaking this choice-of-no-choice oligopoly of the big chains is probably the 20-minute neighbourhood concept but Brexit moved us away from that with the funds replacing the Regional Development Fund being smaller and aimed at more stabilisation/rearguard action and less social change.
 

Fab Foodie

Legendary Member
I think that blame is misplaced. In most products, there is practically no choice of provenance. Yesterday in Morrison's (tempted back through the door after nearly 2 years by a big discount voucher), the choice of honey was between 4 or 5 brands of "blend of non-EU honey" and one NZ manuka. Nothing even UK, let alone local. Flour? French or Canadian.

The Lowest Common Denominator approach of chain store buyers means consumers aren't being given much choice on provenance unless they're willing to become hippie quaxers trundling around the farms, windmills and small local produce shops, and that doesn't really fit with many 9-5er lifestyles. Working from home hasn't yet brought sufficient flexitime to allow weekday daytime shopping.

I feel the best chance of breaking this choice-of-no-choice oligopoly of the big chains is probably the 20-minute neighbourhood concept but Brexit moved us away from that with the funds replacing the Regional Development Fund being smaller and aimed at more stabilisation/rearguard action and less social change.
No Homepride :ohmy:
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Natalie Elphicke has just said at PMQs that the queues in Dover are not as a result of Brexit, but are due to Brussels red tape.
And I think there's a fair chance she actually believes it. There seems to be this delusional state that some people are in, where they genuinely don't appear to be able to make the connection.
 

Mugshot

Über Member
And I think there's a fair chance she actually believes it. There seems to be this delusional state that some people are in, where they genuinely don't appear to be able to make the connection.
One of her solutions, in case you're interested, was to build more roads.

Edit: Thinking about it, that may work, build an enormous roundabout and have the lorries drive round and round that until their slot to get checked and on the ferry is clear, like they do with planes.
 
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icowden

Squire
Natalie Elphicke has just said at PMQs that the queues in Dover are not as a result of Brexit, but are due to Brussels red tape.
Natalie at a Members Night Club:-

"Yes - the queues to get into the club are not because I decided not to pay my membership fees, but because of "red tape" imposed by the club. Apparently I now have to pay on the door, show my ID and be searched. Honestly, these people. There must be a better way of doing it..."
 
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