Random Daily Banter

[PurplePenguin]

Who on the forum is claiming *expertise* outside of their own area of, erm, expertise? (I'm going to spoil your joke as well, as per @Ian H's observation).

Isn't the fun being ignorant but making wild observations about other areas than your own? I think most of us just enjoy making shit up.

But...

If I then claim I'm right on a matter of corporate tax because Noam Chomsky said something on the matter, I'd expect to get shot down, by a real expert, with a charge of argumentum ad verecundiam!! (even if they are long words, so only to be used by radical socialists, obvs)

Think this works quite nicely for Dan Niedle. You quote him when he is talking about stuff e.g. economics he is not an expert about.

 

[briantrumpet]

Think this works quite nicely for Dan Niedle. You quote him when he is talking about stuff e.g. economics he is not an expert about.

Fair. OTOH, if you don't reply, I'll know to send round your neighbours to check you're OK.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Well, you learn something new every day. Apparently an American zoo is now housing a stowaway UK fox that they've called 'Basil', and they are having to educate Americans on how to pronounce his name. Turns out that Americans say the word 'basil' as "bayssul".

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-pronunciations/basil

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[Pblakeney]

Well, you learn something new every day. Apparently an American zoo is now housing a stowaway UK fox that they've called 'Basil', and they are having to educate Americans on how to pronounce his name. Turns out that Americans say the word 'basil' as "bayssul".

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-pronunciations/basil

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So. O-rey-gah-no OR oreg-ah-no?

 

[briantrumpet]

So. O-rey-gah-no OR oreg-ah-no?

Controversially, apparently their 'aloominum' pronunciation is possibly more etymologically justified than the UK pronunciation. Pronunciation is a very slippery thing, and things like 'margarine' (with a hard G) and 'balcony' (with the stress on the O) now would get people laughing and correcting you, whereas at one time the modern pronunciation was considered terribly wrong.

And that's before we get onto the Great Vowel Shift.

 

[Ian H]

Controversially, apparently their 'aloominum' pronunciation is possibly more etymologically justified than the UK pronunciation. Pronunciation is a very slippery thing, and things like 'margarine' (with a hard G) and 'balcony' (with the stress on the O) now would get people laughing and correcting you, whereas at one time the modern pronunciation was considered terribly wrong.

And that's before we get onto the Great Vowel Shift.

I read someone somewhere, some time ago, saying that they, or an elderly person known to them, heard an elderly schoolmaster from the Victorian era pronouncing the tion in tuition exactly as spelt - 'tee-on'.

 

[Pblakeney]

Controversially, apparently their 'aloominum' pronunciation is possibly more etymologically justified than the UK pronunciation. Pronunciation is a very slippery thing, and things like 'margarine' (with a hard G) and 'balcony' (with the stress on the O) now would get people laughing and correcting you, whereas at one time the modern pronunciation was considered terribly wrong.

And that's before we get onto the Great Vowel Shift.

Some reading below for anyone interested. I think that I'll be sticking with aluminium.
https://www.gabrian.com/aluminum-or-aluminium/

 

[briantrumpet]

Some reading below for anyone interested. I think that I'll be sticking with aluminium.
https://www.gabrian.com/aluminum-or-aluminium/

Thanks. I knew that there was an interesting history.

 

[Pross]

Well, you learn something new every day. Apparently an American zoo is now housing a stowaway UK fox that they've called 'Basil', and they are having to educate Americans on how to pronounce his name. Turns out that Americans say the word 'basil' as "bayssul".

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-pronunciations/basil

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Surprised ICE didn’t detain him and deport him to some random South American country.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Fair. OTOH, if you don't reply, I'll know to send round your neighbours to check you're OK.

He's got to get something right one day, surely.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think that this is Colbert's spoof non-CBS sign off following the axing of The Late Show. It's going to be interesting to see what he does next.

 

[briantrumpet]

It's actually interesting reading all the comments on Youtube & Bluesky... it's so well done, no-one's really sure what it is.

I imagine it was all done well before the last Late Show was due to be aired, and it was all Colbert's idea. A way of sticking up two fingers at CBS. But he shows that even with what was a tiny budget (I imagine), he can pack quite a satirical punch. Maybe it's his job application, to see what offers he gets - he's already had one from the Meidas Network, so it'll be interesting to see what he does next.

 

[briantrumpet]

Haha, context: he did one like this ten years ago. That was a spoof, and this new one is a spoof of a spoof. Both are really worth a watch.

 

[First Aspect]

Some reading below for anyone interested. I think that I'll be sticking with aluminium.
https://www.gabrian.com/aluminum-or-aluminium/

Aluminum is a pronunciation based on a spelling mistake.

 

[Ian H]

Aluminum is a pronunciation based on a spelling mistake.

If you pronounce the final U as a diphthong (similar to 'pure'), you can get close to the UK pronunciation with the US spelling.