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rakkor

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We're currently in Thessaloniki for a weekend break when we were rudely awakened on Sunday @2am by both our phone kicking off with a Greek Civil defence alert about a wildfire raging though the City's suburbs - "keep windows closed and prepare for evacuation" - Quite a scary experience, the alert not the wildfire as we realised it wasn't going to reach us down at the waterfront. The authorities seemed to have it under control yesterday morning and by the afternoon the smoke pall had dispersed.
 
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briantrumpet

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We're currently in Thessaloniki for a weekend break when we were rudely awakened on Sunday @2am by both our phone kicking off with a Greek Civil defence alert about a wildfire raging though the City's suburbs - "keep windows closed and prepare for evacuation" - Quite a scary experience, the alert not the wildfire as we realised it wasn't going to reach us down at the waterfront. The authorities seemed to have it under control yesterday morning and by the afternoon the smoke pall had dispersed.

9.30pm, and they've given the order to evacuate a whole village because of the intense smoke. I suspect many will have already made plans or gone already, given the intensity. I did the same voluntarily in 2022, even though the fire authorities said that no properties were at risk. The speed at which the fire is progressing, I suspect it'll pass by/through in a couple of days, the only question then being what damage is done that they come back to, when given the all-clear. The only slight consolation is that our fire of 2022 created at least some additional firebreaks by human intervention at the time, and what was burnt.

I can't help thinking that longer term they are going to have to bite the bullet and give themselves more chances in such situations by pre-emptively making firebreaks and improving access in even historic forests. I was only in the affected forest last year on bikes with friends, and I suspect it'll be utterly unrecognisable when I go back. At least here it only took out bands of trees and whizzed under the canopy in many places, so there's still a lot of tree cover, and (of course) the grasses have exploited the opportunity.

In some ways, it's not a disaster for nature in the longer term, and it'll work out how to exploit the 'new normal', but it's going to take hundreds of years to get to the kind of stable-ish state it's enjoyed for the past few hundred/thousand years. 'Short term' is measured as 100 years, which they reckon is the time it takes for a forest to show no signs of a fire that ravaged it.

It's all terribly grim, and I still twitch when I hear helicopters and the thrum of Canadairs.
 

C R

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In some ways, it's not a disaster for nature in the longer term,

That's arguable. The flash flood and landslide in Galicia that I mentioned a few weeks back was made far worse by a forest fire the year before. The fire leaves the top soil very loose, and rain washes it away, leaving behind a much less fertile ground. In the particular case I mentioned, the rain washed away about the side of a hill to a depth of about 70cm. Before the fire the vegetation was holding the hill together. This is a very common side effect of forest fires.
 
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briantrumpet

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That's arguable. The flash flood and landslide in Galicia that I mentioned a few weeks back was made far worse by a forest fire the year before. The fire leaves the top soil very loose, and rain washes it away, leaving behind a much less fertile ground. In the particular case I mentioned, the rain washed away about the side of a hill to a depth of about 70cm. Before the fire the vegetation was holding the hill together. This is a very common side effect of forest fires.

Indeed - a lot depends on the nature of the fire and what happens after. As it stands, the one in my village looks like it's going to be a beneficial one, with grasses quickly establishing themselves and small shrubs now following. But the fire didn't leave a desert anyway, as it rushed through a lot and left quite a lot of trees standing. A lot of what had been there was the result of planting to stabilise the slopes in the easrly 20th century after previous deforestation.

I suspect it'll be a very different story over at Montmaur, as the fire has been way more intense, from what I can see, and I suspect has left little standing. It's up to about 4000 acres now, all told. They can't yet get to the village which was evacuated last night, as the smoke is too thick, but they think the buildings are probably OK. Small mercies, and all that.
 
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briantrumpet

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My monthly Facebook earnings have gone up 576% this month, and that's without taking my clothes off.

It's still only $36 (including a $20 bonus for I don't know what).

Maybe I should try taking my clothes off.
 
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My monthly Facebook earnings have gone up 576% this month, and that's without taking my clothes off.

It's still only $36 (including a $20 bonus for I don't know what).

Maybe I should try taking my clothes off.

If you were a Labour politician the media would be all over you for that level of financial gouging.
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
My monthly Facebook earnings have gone up 576% this month, and that's without taking my clothes off.

It's still only $36 (including a $20 bonus for I don't know what).

Maybe I should try taking my clothes off.

You are no longer blocked? I imagine the French ladies of a certain age are very happy.
 

Ian H

Shaman
My monthly Facebook earnings have gone up 576% this month, and that's without taking my clothes off.

It's still only $36 (including a $20 bonus for I don't know what).

Maybe I should try taking my clothes off.

You could try for fame's posterior trumpet.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
You are no longer blocked? I imagine the French ladies of a certain age are very happy.

A techy friend, some nice red wine, and my passport somehow managed to unblock the u-bend. I think where the problem started was not using their infernal app initially when I was blocked, but trying to do it via the web.

Anyway, said friend was trying various things Gemini suggested, and suddenly the app prompted me to confirm my identity.

The amusing postscript was that my friend's Facebook changed his own stuff to French, and he took a while to work out how to change it back.

And yes, you're correct about French ladies of a certain age: it's still 2/3 female, and about 50% over 60.
 
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briantrumpet

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Ha. Just checked. 82% over 45. But rather nicely, 88% are French.

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