Random political stuff - old news, or not news

[briantrumpet]

Not news. Saw this in a shelter at the top of the Mortirolo and it displays all that is wrong with cycling in the UK.
13 top quality closed road sportives (specifically not races). All free to enter.

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Well, not sportives as such, but just closed roads for the passes. There are a few around here as well... 13, 19 Sept & 3 Oct, for the cols de Tourniol, Rousset, et la Chaudière.

https://www.ledauphine.com/montagne...eserves-aux-cyclistes-on-vous-dit-ou-et-quand

 

[Pblakeney]

Well, not sportives as such, but just closed roads for the passes. There are a few around here as well... 13, 19 Sept & 3 Oct, for the cols de Tourniol, Rousset, et la Chaudière.

https://www.ledauphine.com/montagne...eserves-aux-cyclistes-on-vous-dit-ou-et-quand

Nice for the French too then. My point was that UK cyclists get ripped off.
The Fred Whitton was £125 + processing charges.

 

[briantrumpet]

Nice for the French too then. My point was that UK cyclists get ripped off.
The Fred Whitton was £125 + processing charges.

Yes, I do think we get ripped off, but those open cols aren't sportifs. The local one here is 55€ for one day, 88€ for two, and 115€ for three, with a jersey and food included, and some closed roads. When I'm fit again and retired, I might do it.

https://new.sportsnconnect.com/members/events/registration/trials/4qXMieLexAzgMcSseKi9GJ

 

[Ian H]

Well, not sportives as such, but just closed roads for the passes. There are a few around here as well... 13, 19 Sept & 3 Oct, for the cols de Tourniol, Rousset, et la Chaudière.

https://www.ledauphine.com/montagne...eserves-aux-cyclistes-on-vous-dit-ou-et-quand

I notice they allow ebikes and walkers/runners as well.

 

[Pblakeney]

I notice they allow ebikes and walkers/runners as well.

Exactly. A good day out for all participants without the cost, or pressure to go fast.

 

[briantrumpet]

I notice they allow ebikes and walkers/runners as well.

Yep. It's more of a Not Cars Or Motorbikes Day.

 

[briantrumpet]

Lewis Goodall is getting dragged for this... it sprang from a discussion in which he opined that school shutdowns might have been an overreaction.

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Haha, Goodall stuck to his guns, but one of the scientists challenging him didn't roll over, and it rather dominated the airwaves, not in Goodall's favour. Can't think why I was amused by her comment.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Haha, Goodall stuck to his guns, but one of the scientists challenging him didn't roll over, and it rather dominated the airwaves, not in Goodall's favour. Can't think why I was amused by her comment.

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Obviously, I am only reading your posts, not the conversation itself but odd to see Lewis Goodall suggest long Covid is disputed, and he was also suggesting that covid school lockdowns were an overreaction. Is that correct?

I remember Christina Pagel from the pandemic, she was one of the very early proponents of an immediate lockdown and had the maths around the spread bang on from what I recall.

 

[briantrumpet]

Obviously, I am only reading your posts, not the conversation itself but odd to see Lewis Goodall suggest long Covid is disputed, and he was also suggesting that covid school lockdowns were an overreaction. Is that correct?

I remember Christina Pagel from the pandemic, she was one of the very early proponents of an immediate lockdown and had the maths around the spread bang on from what I recall.

Correct. Apparently he was sceptical at the time too.

Pagel is thorough with her data, so not so keen on unsubstantiated hunches.

 

[briantrumpet]

Is it @PurplePenguin who has a particular dislike of Jo Maugham?

 

[PurplePenguin]

Is it @PurplePenguin who has a particular dislike of Jo Maugham?

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I don't recall. It's always possible.

 

[briantrumpet]

I don't recall. It's always possible.

Good Law Project, and all that. Might be misremembering.

 

[Psamathe]

Lewis Goodall is getting dragged for this... it sprang from a discussion in which he opined that school shutdowns might have been an overreaction.

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My understanding:
A lot of the comment I've seen about school closures is based on that Covid wasn't as serious for children. But I've not heard those address that children could catch it, just not suffer symptoms to the same degree as adults. Yet each evening those infected children would be going home to their adult parents spreading virus ... and those parents are adults and thus in the group who do suffer symptoms to a greater degree.

To me it's not just about whether an individual suffers symptoms but that asymptomatic people (including children) could still spread the disease.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Good Law Project, and all that. Might be misremembering.

I think you are right and that I didn't agree with the "Good" part of the Law Project. What have they done now? Assisted Dan Niedle?

 

[briantrumpet]

I think you are right and that I didn't agree with the "Good" part of the Law Project. What have they done now? Assisted Dan Niedle?

Nothing specific as far as I know, it just amused me to see someone not overly impressed with Maugham.

As far as I know, Neidle isn't currently having to defend his opinions in court. Litigate them, if you will.