Starmer's vision quest

[Deleted member 28]

Funnily enough,I'd say exactly the same thing about you.

Handbags at dawn?

I don't try and appear a super intelligent, superior to everyone else master debater in one breath then try and be billy big bollox the next, I think you are reasonably intelligent and probably well educated but as for a face to face confrontation you would pi$$ your pants at the first sign of physical aggression.

As neither of us will ever find out it's really quite immaterial so for the sake of others on the forum I suggest you keep your insults to yourself, you farkin melt. 😉

 

[multitool]

I'll say this for you, you never fail to disappoint.

 

[BoldonLad]

Looks like the ball has gone into the long grass again

 

[winjim]

Funnily enough,I'd say exactly the same thing about you.

Handbags at dawn?

I don't try and appear a super intelligent, superior to everyone else master debater in one breath then try and be billy big bollox the next, I think you are reasonably intelligent and probably well educated but as for a face to face confrontation you would pi$$ your pants at the first sign of physical aggression.

As neither of us will ever find out it's really quite immaterial so for the sake of others on the forum I suggest you keep your insults to yourself, you farkin melt. 😉

View: https://twitter.com/InternetH0F/status/1629965537617780738?t=bUTaBm-k_AOx0IXyXTVMWA&s=19

 

[Rusty Nails]

Could be parody...if it wasn't Starmer.

View: https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1631310391887142912?t=szmVp5dWUTkokgN21xEmMQ&s=19

The Labour Party has history in subsequent appointments of people who have helped it with reports/inquiries. Remember Shami Chakrabarti?

Never a good look.

 

[newfhouse]

The Labour Party has history in subsequent appointments of people who have helped it with reports/inquiries. Remember Shami Chakrabarti?

Never a good look.

Worth mentioning that there’s an even richer history of Tory supporters being rewarded for their services.

The timing is either really clever or really stupid and I can’t decide which at the moment.

If it hadn’t been announced yesterday how much airtime would have been given to the select committee interim report? I reckon it would have been quickly buried in favour of the Oakeshott/Hancock spat. So on that reading it’s clever.

On the other hand it seems quite tin eared and has already allowed Johnson supporters to spread FUD. If there is 3D chess being played I confess I’m not keeping up with the game.

 

[Deleted member 49]

It's a odd one...you'd have thought he'd have waited until elected or at least until the dirt sticks before giving ammunition to the Tories ?
But anyone critical of this appointment will be labeled a Tory enabler ! I'm sure @multitool doesn't give a feck how corrupt and dirty UK politics is as long as his team wins....

 

[winjim]

In and of itself it hasn't made me any more or any less likely to vote either Labour or Tory.

 

[Deleted member 49]

In and of itself it hasn't made me any more or any less likely to vote either Labour or Tory.

I agree,there's nowt between them 😁

 

[Rusty Nails]

Worth mentioning that there’s an even richer history of Tory supporters being rewarded for their services.

The timing is either really clever or really stupid and I can’t decide which at the moment.

If it hadn’t been announced yesterday how much airtime would have been given to the select committee interim report? I reckon it would have been quickly buried in favour of the Oakeshott/Hancock spat. So on that reading it’s clever.

On the other hand it seems quite tin eared and has already allowed Johnson supporters to spread FUD. If there is 3D chess being played I confess I’m not keeping up with the game.

The select committee interim report would have come out anyway and would definitely have been given a lot of airtime, as the whole Partygate stuff always has.

This definitely muddies the waters as it raises the possibility in people's minds that there is some sort of unscrupulous lefty vendetta behind all these inquiries.

Whether there is or not, and FWIW I don't think there is, it gives ammunition to the conspiracy theorists of the Tory party.

 

[Rusty Nails]

In and of itself it hasn't made me any more or any less likely to vote either Labour or Tory.

I doubt whether you are the sort of voter they are concerned about. They are interested in the waverers and those who just read the headlines.

 

[multitool]

It's a odd one...you'd have thought he'd have waited until elected or at least until the dirt sticks before giving ammunition to the Tories ?
But anyone critical of this appointment will be labeled a Tory enabler ! I'm sure @multitool doesn't give a feck how corrupt and dirty UK politics is as long as his team wins....

She's a civil servant, you thick bell. She has had to be politically neutral.

Now she is to be CoS. Do you even know what that job is?

There is no corruption in this appointment, and the Tory hoo ha is bollocks because it was Johnson who chose her to lead the investigation and then thanked her for her work.

 

[Rusty Nails]

She's a civil servant, you thick bell. She has had to be politically neutral.

Now she is to be CoS. Do you even know what that job is?

There is no corruption in this appointment, and the Tory hoo ha is bollocks because it was Johnson who chose her to lead the investigation and then thanked her for her work.

As I said earlier it is not about the views of the politically committed, or those who read beyond the headlines, but the waverers. Each vote counts.

People remember bollocks....£350m a week for the NHS, those evil asylum seekers etc.

 

[winjim]

I doubt whether you are the sort of voter they are concerned about. They are interested in the waverers and those who just read the headlines.

That's my point really. There's no point looking at things through the filter of what I think would appeal to me.

 

[multitool]

As I said earlier it is not about the views of the politically committed, or those who read beyond the headlines, but the waverers. Each vote counts.

People remember bollocks....£350m a week for the NHS, those evil asylum seekers etc.

You are probably right. And right now is the media battle to shape perception with Tories splatting their faux-outrage all over Twitter.

Truth is nobody is impartial or unbiased, but there is a difference between being impartial and acting impartial. To anyone with a functioning brain the claims of corruption are ridiculous, especially in the light of effusive Tory praise of Gray when she published the report.