Starmer's vision quest

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Pharaoh
Explain then, not one stat I can find says anything other than the best victory for the Tories in years so WTF do you keep going on about?

I was being sarcastic you thick twat :laugh:
 
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You keep saying this, but its primary purpose is to improve the lot of people in this country via its policies, as without that there is no point to the Labour Party, and winning the election is just the first step in achieving that purpose. Unless, of course you are referring to primary as first in sequence rather than the most important.

It just becomes another cynical political exercise for career politicians if it isn't made clear just what those policies are before asking the public to lend them their vote.

While I want the Labour Party to oust the Tories, and I can see the reason why Starmer is just keeping his head down and hoping the Tories will continue to shoot themselves in the foot, I would prefer it if it wasn't just a leap in the dark as to what exactly their policies would be and an assumption that they will be an improvement.

I hope that gradually, before an election is on us, he will respect the electorate and have the courage of his convictions to become clearer about his policies.
What else is he going to say....there's feck all to go on.
 
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Rusty Nails

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Without winning an election it cannot do anything. But there is a dynamic relationship between what the policies are and whether they appeal to enough voters whilst being distorted by right-wing client media.

In an imperfect world this is what we have.

Does the Pope sh*t in the woods?

I hope that bit of jargonese does not mean that Labour politicians should not have the confidence to believe that their policies are good enough to win and publicise them because of the nasty Tory press telling lies.

Voting will then become even more of a lottery than it is already.
 
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multitool

Pharaoh
It's the most Starmer thing I've ever heard.

It's had the desired effect...

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Pharaoh
Doesn’t that depend on the proportion of the electorate who:

Know who Sue Gray is
Know of her enquiry
Know (or will remember) of her appointment, come election time

I meant in terms of trolling the Tories rather than as a prestigious electoral asset.
 
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