Starmer's vision quest

[multitool]

I don’t think it is possible to balance thousands of innocent lives against the fear of right wing media rejection, but I have no doubt Starmer will continue to try.

That isn't really what Starmer is balancing. The outcome for the Palestinians will be the same regardless of what the leader of a non-governing party in a relatively uninfluential country says.

 

[multitool]

Lolling at people scrabbling around trying to put the weight of the world on Starmer's shoulders

 

[cookiemonster]

Lolling at people scrabbling around trying to put the weight of the world on Starmer's shoulders

I'm not but as he's a future PM, he should speak out against war crimes, as all politicians should do.

His position is that he won't call it out until the USA call it out.

So much for sovereignty.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Lolling at people scrabbling around trying to put the weight of the world on Starmer's shoulders

Glad you find it funny....I find it pathetic.Leader of the Labour party watching Israel commit a genocide right before our eyes and you think it's about winning votes.
Wether he can make a difference or not he and others should be calling for a ceasefire.

 

[newfhouse]

That isn't really what Starmer is balancing. The outcome for the Palestinians will be the same regardless of what the leader of a non-governing party in a relatively uninfluential country says.

You don’t think leading by example is worthwhile, then?

Lolling at people scrabbling around trying to put the weight of the world on Starmer's shoulders

He’s chosen to tear up any principles he had in pursuit of carrying that weight and at the same time made me doubt his strength to do so.

 

[matticus]

Wether he can make a difference or not he and others should be calling for a ceasefire.

I guess the question to ask is which of these scenarios will result in the more changes:
Opposition leader in minor Western country calls for ceasefire in the Middle East

Opposition MP wins election and becomes Prime Minister.

?

 

[newfhouse]

I guess the question to ask is which of these scenarios will result in the more changes:
Opposition leader in minor Western country calls for ceasefire in the Middle East

Opposition MP wins election and becomes Prime Minister.

?

Those options are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Deleted member 49]

I guess the question to ask is which of these scenarios will result in the more changes:
Opposition leader in minor Western country calls for ceasefire in the Middle East

Opposition MP wins election and becomes Prime Minister.

?

Over 6000 dead,including more than 2000 kids.If you think there's a choice between losing votes and watching a genocide then you're morally fecked.
Worth a read.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rael-hamas-war-protesters-keir-starmer-labour

 

[matticus]

If you think there's a choice between losing votes and watching a genocide then you're morally fecked.

Luckily, you and I don't have to make those kind of choices - we can rant and rave all we like on here. Absolutely no cost to us, no downsides.

(Fun isn't it?)

 

[matticus]

Those options are not mutually exclusive.

Of course not - but there is an inherent coupling between the two. With uncertain outcome.

 

[AndyRM]

Well played once again Viz. Although I have laughed more at the previous issue.

 

[fozy tornip]

If I listened to his lies would he say
"I'm a man without conviction
I'm a man who doesn't know
How to sell a contradiction..."

Starmer Starmer Starmer Starmer Starmer Chameleon

Good to see the lads at Viz keeping up.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Well done !

View: https://twitter.com/SadiqKhan/status/1717816632842781047?t=W4ge34jUCK_SemHMki739g&s=19

 

[multitool]

What took him so long?

 

[newfhouse]

What took him so long?

Threats from the party machine, I should think.