Starmer's vision quest
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C R
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Oh, come on, you can't be asking for peace, where are the profits of the weapons companies going to come from?
the snail
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To be fair, apart from saying he's ok with starving the Palestinians, and leaving all the obnoxious tory legislation in place, he hasn't really had much to say about anything, has he?
multitool
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Not this bollocks again.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Doesn't look like that Citadel of Sensible Centrism, the Guardian, is exactly onside with you on that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/30/keir-starmer-labour-israel-gaza
multitool
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What is Labour's "grassroots"?
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Bound to involve some of those pesky, inconvenient buggers who put the crosses in boxes. Or possibly don't.
cookiemonster
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Nope, not bollox at all.
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1GLM98pU9Y
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQiZty9_jnY&t=86s
Time to stop fanboying Starmer.
cookiemonster
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Does Labour have any? Starmer kicked them all out of the party because they may upset the Daily Mail.
multitool
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multitool
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He kicked out the rump of Momentum Corbynites who trashed the party. The party has gone from suffering the biggest defeat in 75 years to being 20+ points ahead in polls.
But who are the "grassroots"? It isn't a static thing. I was a Labour member until the Corbyn farce. I may rejoin again, or I may not.
cookiemonster
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Did they trash the party or where they kicked out because the establishment didn't want them. You cannot have someone giving hope to working people in the country, can we?
Let's just undermine him daily (as admitted by Peter Mandleson on camera to Robert Peston) and get Boris Johnson. Eighty seat majority and 200,000 dead from Covid and the most dysfunctional government ever known.
The Labour Right must be so proud.
cookiemonster
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How was it ridiculous?
He was asked if Israel blocking food, fuel, water and medicine to Gaza constitutes a war crime. He failed to call it a war crime, which it is under the Geneva Convention (Colllective Punishement) and, as a former human rights lawyer, he should know that.
People were right to be astonished at that.
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And could easily go to minus 20 in 10 mins. Polls mean jack sh!t.
multitool
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As I said from the start it is very clear that he was being pressed over it and his answer was confused with the central message he was trying to get out about Israel"'s right to defend itself.
If you look to all the other interviews before and after the LBC one he did not say Israel had the right to turn off water and power, and nor did any of his front bench, despite what has been claimed by headless chickens on twitter and Andy.
If it was his view he would have repeated it.
