Starmer's vision quest

[jowwy]

Odd that you seem to spend most of your time in the Brexit threads then ?

odd that you follow me that much to know were i spend my time.....

 

[BoldonLad]

He and Rachel Reeves (Shadow Chancellor) have been clear that, with energy, they'd be pragmatic not idealistic. Nationalising energy would have a significant cost and would break their commitment to fiscal discipline; ie it won't happen. That is their position as of now, or rather in the circumstances prevailing in mid July.

There is a point of view that says the energy situation is so dynamic that the position may change.

The railways are pretty much nationalised already in practice, the Train Operating Companies are just managing their operation for a slice of the farebox.

I agree, we have had years of government by knee jerk reaction. We need someone with a brain and a plan. When we find someone, they need to be electable.

 

[Deleted member 49]

I agree, we have had years of government by knee jerk reaction. We need someone with a brain and a plan. When we find someone, they need to be electable.

Go on then tell us the plan 🙄

 

[BoldonLad]

Go on then tell us the plan 🙄

Did I say I had a plan?, it may have escaped your attention, but, I am not a Party Leader, or, even an MP.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Did I say I had a plan?, it may have escaped your attention, but, I am not a Party Leader, or, even an MP.

No idea...that's just the brains we need then.

 

[BoldonLad]

No idea...that's just the brains we need then.

We elect Polictians to do the Governing. You just have to look at what happened in the referendum if you let the general public loose on policy making.

Have you published your manifesto anywhere?, and, mean a little bit more than Nationalise Energy and re-instate Corbyn.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Have you published your manifesto anywhere?, and, mean a little bit more than Nationalise Energy

How about all essential services and utilities should be pubically owned and not a profit making.Profit should be made on luxuries not necessities.
For starters....

 

[BoldonLad]

How about all essential services and utilities should be pubically owned and not a profit making.Profit should be made on luxuries not necessities.
For starters....

Not a bad start, but, a few days ago, when I suggested Nationalising, among other things, Food Production, (food is an essential, I assume you would agree?), you were luke warm at best.

 

[jowwy]

Not a bad start, but, a few days ago, when I suggested Nationalising, among other things, Food Production, (food is an essential, I assume you would agree?), you were luke warm at best.

Cause thats not on labours manifesto, so he cant copy and paste that as his own…..

 

[Deleted member 49]

Not a bad start, but, a few days ago, when I suggested Nationalising, among other things, Food Production, (food is an essential, I assume you would agree?), you were luke warm at best.

Was I ? I'm open to the idea of moving away from the monopoly of supermarkets if that's what your getting at.Or did you just say it for effect...I presume you have some ideas ?

 

[BoldonLad]

Was I ? I'm open to the idea of moving away from the monopoly of supermarkets if that's what your getting at.Or did you just say it for effect...I presume you have some ideas ?

Well, I did mention farming and supermarkets, (from memory, can't be arsed to look back for the posts), ie production and distribution of food.

I can have all of the ideas in the world, if I am not in Government (which I am not, and never likely to be), they are so much hot air.

 

[AndyRM]

well im not the one ranting about brexit, cost of living, kier starmer or the fuel costs.......and yet again have come up with nothing in response.

But thats ok rant away.......

Er. Neither am I.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Cause thats not on labours manifesto, so he cant copy and paste that as his own…..

 

[jowwy]

Er. Neither am I.

That wasnt aimed at you either…..so whats your point???

 

[jowwy]

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Yup…..thats your maifesto blowing away in the wind