Starmer's vision quest

[albion]

It's recognised as a genocide by literally anyone with half a brain and an internet connection who hasn't hitched their wagon to the interests of Israel. The official bit is important, of course, because ordinary people understanding what is happening is not enough to stop it.

Indeed. However, it still does not escuse idiocy.

 

[multitool]

Still sounds a bit hypocritical tbh. It looks like you're actually agreeing with me here, when it suits of course.

These are the terms Aurora uses when she hasn't got a case.

Makes a change from her usual "seems", I suppose.

 

[AuroraSaab]

No change in your avoiding giving a straight answer and instead favouring personal comments though.

 

[Deleted member 49]

It is disappointing that he will not take a firmer line now, even though his position has changed markedly, as I expected it would.

Lol....he's literally said and done feck all.He supported cutting off water and power,banned his Mps from calling for a ceasefire,suspended MPs for protesting,can't call what's happening in Gaza a genocide...where has he been regarding the cutting off aid to UNRWA ?
Silent....coward.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

even though his position has changed markedly, as I expected it would

Has his position 'changed markedly' whilst somehow staying in line with Biden's position?

 

[multitool]

No change in your avoiding giving a straight answer and instead favouring personal comments though.

I don't bother engaging with bad faith merchants other than to point out their bad faith.

 

[multitool]

Has his position 'changed markedly' whilst somehow staying in line with Biden's position?

He has called for a ceasefire and labelled Palestinian casualties "intolerable"

 

[qigong chimp]

This seems as good a place as any to start planning our first group ride.
Who's in?

 

[Deleted member 121]

Me. I have an elephant bike and a dodgy gallbladder and if we pass an Aldi, I can stop for provisions, then I'm in.

 

[multitool]

I take it Bob will be riding AndyRM's Chopper?

I expect AndyCXR will be up for it.

He strikes me as the kind of guy who spends a lot of his time hunched up over his tubing.

 

[theclaud]

That is your own post-hoc rationalisation of what actually happened

Hmmmm. I banged on quite a lot about it at the time. The PLP were apoplectic from the off. The then shadow chancellor briefed the Guardian ahead of the leadership election on the dangers of opposing austerity. Elected Labour MPs immediately refusing en masse to serve in the shadow cabinet. The deranged Israel-Lobby wingnuts showed their hand very early on. Billionaire ex-donors would follow Corbyn around screaming "Say you believe in Israel!" and be given double-page spreads in The Mail to smear his supporters as 'Sturmabteilung'. People like Bolders and Rusty would wring their hands a lot about why can't they all just get on.

I think you are overselling Kier Starmer's potential influence as it currently stands

Isn't it generally accepted that he's literally about to become the Prime Minister?

 

[theclaud]

But then you were joking about the best way to kill babies

I was?? Would you care to refresh my memory?

 

[AndyRM]

I haven't got a Chopper.

 

[multitool]

Isn't it generally accepted that he's literally about to become the Prime Minister?

Yes, but how many people outside of the UK could name the next UK PM?

 

[Deleted member 159]

I expect AndyCXR will be up for it.

Only if its an indoor Zwift race