multitool
Guest
Exactly.
Starmer's vision quest
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Exactly.
C R
Über Member
OTOH, the RMT leader offers his support to Corbyn if he were to run as an independent, so potayto potato.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68393822
C R
Über Member
Neither article is about a leadership contest. The Guardian article boils down to "Starmer is all we have to beat the Tories, so we have to go with it". No particular enthusiasm for Starmer as such.
multitool
Guest
The Guardian article is about a possible Starmer-led government. The BBC item is about Corbyn standing to be an MP.
One of those possibilities is a near-irrelevance. The other isn't.
This idea that there is no enthusiasm for Starmer is being oversold. There is enough enthusiasm for him for people to explicitly choose him in polling to demonstrate a 26 point lead over the other possible main choice.
That Starmer isn't exactly what those being polled want is neither here nor there. Leaders rarely are exactly what people want. Not only is it inherent in a system based on compromise, but such a mythical person may not exist, at least outside of the realms of populism...and we can see where populism has taken us with both Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn.
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multitool
Guest
"Mick Lynch has said voters have to “grow up a bit” and recognise Keir Starmer as the only realistic alternative to the current government"
Realistic is the key word. I think what Lynch is saying is that people need to vote for Starmer because its either Starmer or the Tories.
I think it's a call to support Starmer emphatically now, but then hold him to account in government.
Everything about that is right, in my view.
Realistic is the key word. I think what Lynch is saying is that people need to vote for Starmer because its either Starmer or the Tories.
I think it's a call to support Starmer emphatically now, but then hold him to account in government.
Everything about that is right, in my view.
albion
Guru
He is supporting Corbyn if he runs as an Independent. Interestingly, or obviously, the Telegraph appear to be telling Brexiteers to vote Reform.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Lynch supported Brexit. And I think it's probably reasonable to endorse Corbyn as an MP despite his shortcomings as a leader.
C R
Über Member
Indeed, and as far as I can tell, he hasn't admitted what a clusterfark brexit is.
albion
Guru
So did Corbyn, just surreptitiously, a pivot reason we got Brexit. There are strong parallels to Johnson's Brexit 'dilemma'.
Though obviously, the foreign finance and hedge fund clan, the Telegraph, Farage and Rees-Mogg led.
fozy tornip
fozympotent
Most fun at the barber's were the days 'tool was in for his Arthur Shelby.
bobzmyunkle
Senior Member
Those uppity Scots are still being uppity.
We don’t think that the speaker of the House of Commons is fit to continue in his role. He was obviously bullied into submission last week by the leader of the Labour party.
When it was pointed out by the interviewer that both Keir Starmer and Hoyle had denied this, Flynn said that was “like me denying that I’m a bald”.
We don’t think that the speaker of the House of Commons is fit to continue in his role. He was obviously bullied into submission last week by the leader of the Labour party.
When it was pointed out by the interviewer that both Keir Starmer and Hoyle had denied this, Flynn said that was “like me denying that I’m a bald”.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
*Mumbles something about being ruled by effete w*nkers*
