Starmer's vision quest

[spen666]

All that is cancelled out by going to pub that's not owned by brexit loony

It's not though.


Contracts don't simply switch from Wetherspoons to other places


Hundreds if not thousands would suffer if Wetherspoons closed

 

[theclaud]

spend £50 in a Greene King

Huge mistake, wether or not there's a Spoons in town.

 

[FishFright]

It's not though.


Contracts don't simply switch from Wetherspoons to other places


Hundreds if not thousands would suffer if Wetherspoons closed

They switch to the people who need to be supplied like.

There is nothing good about Weatherspoons that needs preserving.

 

[jowwy]

They switch to the people who need to be supplied like.

There is nothing good about Weatherspoons that needs preserving.

So preserving peoples jobs is not good?? What world do you live in ffs

 

[Bromptonaut]

All that is cancelled out by going to pub that's not owned by brexit loony

If 'spoons went tzup then I'd confidently expect some sort of pre-pack and sale to a less unpalatable owner.

If it disappeared altogether there'd be massive niche in pub ecology waiting an occupant.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Wetherspoons is never the only choice whatever your income level.

The only thing near it on price is McDonald's or offers at chippies and fried chicken places. They don't do free coffee refills though.

I'm not a huge fan of Tim whatever he's called but you are asking people who are probably already quite skint to give up what might be their only social outing in a week to spend because you don't like his Brexit stance? It's 'Let them eat cake' or 'let them go without'.

 

[Deleted member 49]

The only thing near it on price is McDonald's or offers at chippies and fried chicken places. They don't do free coffee refills though.

I'm not a huge fan of Tim whatever he's called but you are asking people who are probably already quite skint to give up what might be their only social outing in a week to spend because you don't like his Brexit stance? It's 'Let them eat cake' or 'let them go without'.

Are we talking about a pubs here or restaurants...to be honest I find Weatherspoons like the McDonald's of pubs.Personally speaking when I go for a pint I don't want to be stinking of food...I prefer my local and the stench of body odour 🙄
Never drank in the places well before Brexit....and wouldn't start now, Bland.

 

[newfhouse]

What the feck is he so scared of !

I think he’s scared of losing the next election by giving the press opportunities to terrify the voting public. I think being entirely vanilla may backfire horribly but we have seen that winning needs more than popular policies.

Like it or not, voters want to feel they are choosing a person at least as much as a manifesto. My evidence for this is colleagues who have told me that they liked Labour’s ideals but “couldn’t vote for that man.” They are intelligent and likeable people but something persuaded them to that view.

 

[Deleted member 49]

My evidence for this is colleagues who have told me that they liked Labour’s ideals but “couldn’t vote for that man.” They are intelligent and likeable people but something persuaded them to that view.

Lol....I'd say they were far from intelligent if they bought into that shite...
Where as the majority of my friends who turned against Labour did so because of Brexit...it was far more toxic than Corbyn.
But we are where we are,I except that,Corbyn isn't coming back.Time to move on.The manifesto was hugely popular and that's where we should be.Not some wishy washy freeze your bills crap.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Are we talking about a pubs here or restaurants...to be honest I find Weatherspoons like the McDonald's of pubs.Personally speaking when I go for a pint I don't want to be stinking of food...I prefer my local and the stench of body odour 🙄
Never drank in the places well before Brexit....and wouldn't start now, Bland.

They are the McDonald's of pubs. High volume sales, low margins. They use the same suppliers as other chains, they just charge less. Some people don't have the luxury of choosing from 10 different price points when they eat out. They go where they can afford. If people have the luxury of being able to moralise over where they take their family for a meal, good luck to them, but a lot of people don't.

 

[Deleted member 49]

They are the McDonald's of pubs. High volume sales, low margins. They use the same suppliers as other chains, they just charge less. Some people don't have the luxury of choosing from 10 different price points when they eat out. They go where they can afford. If people have the luxury of being able to moralise over where they take their family for a meal, good luck to them, but a lot of people don't.

There's plenty of choice to eat,well where I am anyway.Id much prefer to use a local resteraunt/cafe/coffee shop than a chain.In fact if we're just talking about price,there's far cheaper than Weatherspoons.
Saying that I drink at my local Sam Smiths pub and I guess there a chain,I'll allow myself that pleasure

 

[Rusty Nails]

So, with two-thirds of the public and even half of Tory voters wanting energy nationalised, this is the real, actual, centre ground of UK politics right now - y'know, not the mythical centre ground in Nuneaton. So that's what so-called 'centrists' should be advocating, right, @Rusty Nails?

This centrist supports it, and always has, but I leave the advocating to those active in politics..............or Starmer.

 

[newfhouse]

I'd say they were far from intelligent if they bought into that shite...

I think that’s unfair. It is possible to be intelligent, to be a decent person, but still to be groomed into wrongheadedness.

 

[Salty seadog]

There's plenty of choice to eat,well where I am anyway.Id much prefer to use a local resteraunt/cafe/coffee shop than a chain.In fact if we're just talking about price,there's far cheaper than Weatherspoons.
Saying that I drink at my local Sam Smiths pub and I guess there a chain,I'll allow myself that pleasure

Samuel Smiths nut brown ale, not had that in donkeys...

 

[Deleted member 49]

I think that’s unfair. It is possible to be intelligent, to be a decent person, but still to be groomed into wrongheadedness.

I am unfair....if you chose this goverment over Corbyn/Labour your a fecking mug.
There were warning signs....don't tell me nobody knew what the Tories were,even more what Johnson was.