Starmer's vision quest

[Deleted member 49]

Samuel Smiths nut brown ale, not had that in donkeys...

Im not sure I've ever had it....is it a bit like Newcastle Brown ale ? After 4/5 pints of their organic lager I barely remember what I've had or how I got home 😁

 

[newfhouse]

I am unfair....if you chose this goverment over Corbyn/Labour your a fecking mug.
There were warning signs....don't tell me nobody knew what the Tories were,even more what Johnson was.

Of course, but even the brightest of us can be conned.

 

[AuroraSaab]

There's plenty of choice to eat,well where I am anyway.Id much prefer to use a local resteraunt/cafe/coffee shop than a chain.In fact if we're just talking about price,there's far cheaper than Weatherspoons.
Saying that I drink at my local Sam Smiths pub and I guess there a chain,I'll allow myself that pleasure

If you live in an area with lots of independent coffee shops that serve Lavazza coffee, including cappuccinos, lattes etc. for £1.25, with free refills, you are very lucky indeed.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Of course, but even the brightest of us can be conned.

Conned being the word....they were mugs if they chose this.Sorry but that's my view.We had years of austerity and hardship and they chose more.What else do you want me to think.

 

[Salty seadog]

It's over 20 years since I had it, only one shop I knew stocked it and was rather struck on it at the time.

https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/shop/bottles/ale/nut-brown-ale/

 

[newfhouse]

What else do you want me to think.

Can we agree that intelligent and gullible are not mutually exclusive? That we’ve all been had over at some point in our lives?

 

[Deleted member 49]

Can we agree that intelligent and gullible are not mutually exclusive? That we’ve all been had over at some point in our lives?

Without doubt,I grew up in Blackpool...😁

 

[AuroraSaab]

It's a bit of a digression from the absolute dumpster fire that this whole forum has become, but as an aside I'll mention that Home Bargains are currently doing Lucky Buddha beer, in the funky bottles, for £1.49. That's all. Carry on, chaps.

 

[Deleted member 49]

It's a bit of a digression from the absolute dumpster fire that this whole forum has become, but as an aside I'll mention that Home Bargains are currently doing Lucky Buddha beer, in the funky bottles, for £1.49. That's all. Carry on, chaps.

Why venture into those threads ?
Never tried that beer,but I will.Just looked as it's from Qiandao Lake,which is in Hangzhou China.Makes me laugh as was repeatedly told whilst in China "you must visit the lake,it's the most beautiful in the world" went that way as wanted to sail the three gorges before they flooded it to build the dam....
It wasn't beautiful 🙄
Sorry off thread.

 

[BoldonLad]

They are the McDonald's of pubs. High volume sales, low margins. They use the same suppliers as other chains, they just charge less. Some people don't have the luxury of choosing from 10 different price points when they eat out. They go where they can afford. If people have the luxury of being able to moralise over where they take their family for a meal, good luck to them, but a lot of people don't.

One of my drinking pals (a retired Teacher, so, not skint) defines affluence as "not having to consider the price of a pint, before choosing a pub"

 

[Fab Foodie]

Sir Keir Starmer has said his job is different to that of a trade union leader and that he doesn’t want to “lose focus” on getting his party elected.

It comes after weeks of pressure on the Labour leader to allow his frontbenchers to appear on picket lines.

Speaking on Jeremy Vine on 5, Starmer said: “I completely understand why people are voting to go on strike. I understand why they’re struggling. Wages have been stagnant for the best part of 10 years.

“But my job is different. My job is to get a Labour government elected. The single best thing I could do for [the people striking] is to get a Labour government elected.

“I want to be the Labour prime minister. You can’t sit around a cabinet table resolving issues and then walk on to a picket line. They’re different jobs.

“That is the thing that is going to change millions of lives for the better. I can’t lose that focus.”

 

[Deleted member 49]

Sir Keir Starmer has said his job is different to that of a trade union leader and that he doesn’t want to “lose focus” on getting his party elected.

It comes after weeks of pressure on the Labour leader to allow his frontbenchers to appear on picket lines.

Speaking on Jeremy Vine on 5, Starmer said: “I completely understand why people are voting to go on strike. I understand why they’re struggling. Wages have been stagnant for the best part of 10 years.

“But my job is different. My job is to get a Labour government elected. The single best thing I could do for [the people striking] is to get a Labour government elected.

“I want to be the Labour prime minister. You can’t sit around a cabinet table resolving issues and then walk on to a picket line. They’re different jobs.

“That is the thing that is going to change millions of lives for the better. I can’t lose that focus.”

More nonsense here aswell...covid killed any principles I had ! Weak.

View: https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1564905318382960641?t=VN_MzXV_6HVPt2jnLMABZQ&s=19

 

[theclaud]

More nonsense here aswell...covid killed any principles I had ! Weak.

View: https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1564905318382960641?t=VN_MzXV_6HVPt2jnLMABZQ&s=19

LOL. As if the pandemic didn't throw the massive inequalities blighting the country into even sharper relief and make everything in the manifesto not only more urgent, but more obviously possible.

 

[theclaud]

But my job is different. My job is to get a Labour government elected

What's he doing to that end?

 

[winjim]

LOL. As if the pandemic didn't throw the massive inequalities blighting the country into even sharper relief and make everything in the manifesto not only more urgent, but more obviously possible.

I've said it about Tory attitudes and policy, and I'll say it about anything really. A pandemic was inevitable. OK we couldn't be sure of the details, the timing or the specific virus, but that it would happen was an absolute certainty. To not prepare for it and to divert resources elsewhere is merely to bet that it won't happen in the current election cycle, and to blame it for a major change in policy is to admit that you prepared badly and had no contingency.

I said the same thing about the 2007 financial crash. Nobody saw it coming did they? Well if you've been chancellor of the exchequer for the best part of a decade then to make plans just in case something like that did happen might actually be part of your farking job.