Starmer's vision quest

[Ian H]

We know what areas it fell short in. It wasn't wide ranging enough. It covered only a few towns when gangs were operating in many towns and cities. It skirted around cultural sensitivities. We now know councils and organisations withheld relevant information from Jay.

This is probably the biggest social scandal in the UK in the last 50 years. It affected thousands of girls. We can't ensure it doesn't happen again if we aren't willing to fully investigate what occurred.

Implementing the Jay recommendations won't shed any more light on the institutions and individuals who failed these girls. Only a new far ranging enquiry will do that.

Anyone other than far-right disruptors calling for another enquiry?

 

[multitool]

Anyone other than far-right disruptors calling for another enquiry?

What?

Are you calling Aurora a far-right agitator???

 

[BoldonLad]

Looks like Zuckerberg is reducing moderating on Meta and moving to a Community Notes type system.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna186468

Good to see he's not reducing moderation of cse material or the posts promoting drugs or terrorism.

According to BBC National News, the changes are only effective in USA, however that may work (or not).

 

[Rusty Nails]

We know what areas it fell short in. It wasn't wide ranging enough. It covered only a few towns when gangs were operating in many towns and cities. It skirted around cultural sensitivities. We now know councils and organisations withheld relevant information from Jay.

This is probably the biggest social scandal in the UK in the last 50 years. It affected thousands of girls. We can't ensure it doesn't happen again if we aren't willing to fully investigate what occurred.

Implementing the Jay recommendations won't shed any more light on the institutions and individuals who failed these girls. Only a new far ranging enquiry will do that.

The recommendations were not limited to specific towns or cities and are designed to reduce the chance of it happening elsewhere if introduced nationally. That must be the priority.

A national inquiry is not best suited to look in detail at scandals and their causes/remedies in individual locations imo, and allows for more delay and even more difficulty in ensuring every authority/organisation/person involved doesn't withold relevant information, especially years down the line.

 

[BoldonLad]

We know what areas it fell short in. It wasn't wide ranging enough. It covered only a few towns when gangs were operating in many towns and cities. It skirted around cultural sensitivities. We now know councils and organisations withheld relevant information from Jay.

This is probably the biggest social scandal in the UK in the last 50 years. It affected thousands of girls. We can't ensure it doesn't happen again if we aren't willing to fully investigate what occurred.

Implementing the Jay recommendations won't shed any more light on the institutions and individuals who failed these girls. Only a new far ranging enquiry will do that.

Is it not important to take effective action against it happening now, to new victims, rather than kicking the can down the road, with yet another Enquiry?

 

[AuroraSaab]

Is it not important to take effective action against it happening now, to new victims, rather than kicking the can down the road, with yet another Enquiry?

Why can't both be done? You don't need to wait for a full inquiry to implement Jay's recommendations.

Anyone other than far-right disruptors calling for another enquiry?

The Rotherham whistleblower.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ex...istleblower-grooming-gang-scandal-inquiry/amp

Yes, Jayne, with your MBE for years of working with vulnerable girls and ten years of working to publicise this scandal, you're a far right disrupter, I'm afraid.

Telford victim called for one according to Newsnight.


View: https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1876407532711035089


Journalist Charlie Peters has done extensive work with victims:

There are victims who don't support another enquiry. Mostly that seems to be because the last one achieved very little in practical terms.

It must be very difficult for the survivors of this epidemic of rape, violence, and abuse, to now have their motives questioned.

 

[multitool]

Don't be fatuous. Its very clear given the context of Musk citing Yaxley-Lennon that Starmer's "far right" comment was aimed at Yaxley-Lennon and not everyone involved in exposing these crimes.

 

[BoldonLad]

More not so good news on the economy today, the cost of servicing UK Government Debt rises, how long before we get a Critique of Reeves from God aka Elon.

 

[theclaud]

She was beatified after her death by the left wing of the Labour party as she fulfilled the holy trinity of expectations of the left wing (never actually achieving anything and therefore never being able to be held to account, being vulgar, attacking and undermining those who did deliver for the Labour Party)

Very gracious. Are you Giles Coren?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Very gracious. Are you Giles Coren?

Nobody could be as bad as the smug git Giles Coren.

 

[matticus]

It must be very difficult for the survivors of this epidemic of rape, violence, and abuse, to now have their motives questioned.

I don't see that happening. I haven't (yet) read any criticism of the surivivors.
What I DO see - here and across the media - is criticism of attention-seeking politicians and oligarchs

 

[Psamathe]

What I DO see - here and across the media - is criticism of attention-seeking politicians and oligarchs

Some using the issue to further their personal unrelated ideology.

Ian

 

[multitool]

Very gracious. Are you Giles Coren?

Clearly not. But thanks for the snark.

 

[Rusty Nails]

I don't see that happening. I haven't (yet) read any criticism of the surivivors.
What I DO see - here and across the media - is criticism of attention-seeking politicians and oligarchs

That’s because it isn’t happening.

 

[theclaud]

Clearly not. But thanks for the snark.

Bit of an unhinged diatribe against a very smart and prematurely deceased journalist who spent most of her time writing about the housing crisis, Grenfell, and cycling. Perhaps you are Toby Young, then?