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BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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There does seem to be a trend here:
Wee Kranky not ok
Rachel from accounts not ok
Bozo the clown, ok
Yorkshire Maharaja, ok
The Lettuce, ok

I wonder what the common factor is?
 
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icowden

Squire
Who got found out on her résumé
She is from the UK. She has a Curruculum Vitae not a resumé.

Let's just check what was "found out". Her Labour Web Page said
Rachel spent her professional career as an economist working for the Bank of England, the British Embassy in Washington and at Halifax Bank of Scotland."

She read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford followed by a Masters in Economics. This led to a job as an economist for 6 years. She then moved and worked at Halifax in Retail Banking for 4 years.

The slam dunk here appears to be that she didn't work quite as long solely as an economist as she said that she did. Her qualifications are not in question, just the duration of her dedicated work as an economist.

Let's compare shall we?
  • Kwarteng has a classics and history degree and a PHD in economic history. He worked as a journalist before entering politics.
  • Hunt studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford and worked as a management consultant before entering politics.
  • Zahawi has a degree in chemical engineering then worked in marketing and management before entering politics
  • Sunak has a degree in Business Administration then worked in banking as an analyst before joining a hedge fund
  • Javid has a degree in economics and politics and actually worked in banking for 18 years
So the last 4 chancellors have had no knowledge or training in economics. How is it that they are seen as better at doing the job of chancellor than the current incumbent who has extensive training in economics?

Is it because she's a lady?
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
She is from the UK. She has a Curruculum Vitae not a resumé.

Let's just check what was "found out". Her Labour Web Page said


She read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford followed by a Masters in Economics. This led to a job as an economist for 6 years. She then moved and worked at Halifax in Retail Banking for 4 years.

The slam dunk here appears to be that she didn't work quite as long solely as an economist as she said that she did. Her qualifications are not in question, just the duration of her dedicated work as an economist.

Let's compare shall we?
  • Kwarteng has a classics and history degree and a PHD in economic history. He worked as a journalist before entering politics.
  • Hunt studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford and worked as a management consultant before entering politics.
  • Zahawi has a degree in chemical engineering then worked in marketing and management before entering politics
  • Sunak has a degree in Business Administration then worked in banking as an analyst before joining a hedge fund
  • Javid has a degree in economics and politics and actually worked in banking for 18 years
So the last 4 chancellors have had no knowledge or training in economics. How is it that they are seen as better at doing the job of chancellor than the current incumbent who has extensive training in economics?

Is it because she's a lady?

I may have missed some posts, but, who said any of the previous Chancellors were better? We have been going downhill for years
 

icowden

Squire
I may have missed some posts, but, who said any of the previous Chancellors were better? We have been going downhill for years

To be fair, no-one, but the implication is that Reeves is worse than her predecessors. Thus the logical conclusion to that is that the jeering from the Tories is that they think they did better...
 

CXRAndy

Well-Known Member
Usual labour, tax lots, spend lots.

She has crushed private business, confidence, placed excess costs for employers and staff

Then there are increases to everyone in fuel, food.

Spending millions of illegal immigration and not making any headway

It's the private sector that makes a country prosperous not taxing everything to the hilt.

There's more pain to come in the spring.


Rachel from accounts has truly fooked up. She's now desperate with throwing ideas like Heathrow's new runway. Which won't be built for decades, long after labour are a distant memory

:laugh:
Enjoy your decisions those who voted this bunch of liars, wasters.
 

matticus

Guru
There does seem to be a trend here:
Wee Kranky not ok
Rachel from accounts not ok
Bozo the clown, ok
Yorkshire Maharaja, ok
The Lettuce, ok

I wonder what the common factor is?

Strange attempt at making your point, but I'll answer it ...
The only one on your "OK" list that comes close to a slur is "Yorkshire Maharaja"; fair enough, it alludes to race - but saying "he's part of a very rich indian family" is not much of an insult IMO.
On top of which, I'd never heard it before! Just googled it, got 5 hits that refer to Sunak - the rest are marquee hire firms or other very wealthy indians. Try again ...
 
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multitool

Pharaoh
I may have missed some posts, but, who said any of the previous Chancellors were better? We have been going downhill for years

The UK has been in a slow decline since 1945. It's what happens when you are diverted of an empire.

The last time this country felt hopeful and the economy was doing well was pre-2008 under Labour. That decade was a golden era.
 

Psamathe

Well-Known Member
I cannot speak for EVERY stocks and shares ISA Holder, but, it is/was part of my retirement planning. As self employed software developer, I had no Corporate or Zpublic Sector Pension provider, and, not wishing to put all of my eggs in one basket, I split my pension savings provision between stock and shares ISAs and conventional Pension Fund. I am now living off the proceeds. 😊
A bit off-topic but I remember when ISAs were first introduced and the annual investment limit a lot lower financial advisers were saying if each year you add the max allowed amount to a cash ISA it wasn't many years before you'be be able to retire early 50's and live very comfortably off your ISA income.

That said, back in those days interest rates were typically/average 1% above inflation but their point was (and the calculations) that compounded ISA with building funds accumulated very quickly.

Ian
 

Psamathe

Well-Known Member
So basically, you wouldn't have had the balls for this name-calling, if it wasn't for the bigger boys using it too.
This isn't a very good look.
...
Not at all. When I said "in widespread use" I was referencing the accusations it was fascist and then allegations it was sexist. Nothing to do with confidence about using it (I suspect toy are 2 and 2 = 22 there).

...I suppose if "shoot-skin Sunak" was in common use, that would be OK?
Which highlights to me my ignorance of so much as I've never come across that (even without reference to Sunak) and Google didn't help me either.

Ian
 

icowden

Squire
Usual labour, tax lots, spend lots.
There is nothing to spend. That's what the previous administration did. Only they gave it to their mates.
She has crushed private business, confidence, placed excess costs for employers and staff
It can't be both. Employers costs have increased but staff are better off.
Then there are increases to everyone in fuel, food.
She froze fuel duty again. Food costs are controlled by inflation which is lower than when the Conservatives were in power and remains so.
Spending millions of illegal immigration and not making any headway
Not spending any more than the last administration but I agree with you that they could do more.
It's the private sector that makes a country prosperous not taxing everything to the hilt.
Good job she hasn't done that then.
There's more pain to come in the spring.
Why?
Rachel from accounts has truly fooked up
Only in your head. Her report card so far is OK, could do better.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
She is from the UK. She has a Curruculum Vitae not a resumé.

Let's just check what was "found out". Her Labour Web Page said


She read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford followed by a Masters in Economics. This led to a job as an economist for 6 years. She then moved and worked at Halifax in Retail Banking for 4 years.

The slam dunk here appears to be that she didn't work quite as long solely as an economist as she said that she did. Her qualifications are not in question, just the duration of her dedicated work as an economist.

Let's compare shall we?
  • Kwarteng has a classics and history degree and a PHD in economic history. He worked as a journalist before entering politics.
  • Hunt studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford and worked as a management consultant before entering politics.
  • Zahawi has a degree in chemical engineering then worked in marketing and management before entering politics
  • Sunak has a degree in Business Administration then worked in banking as an analyst before joining a hedge fund
  • Javid has a degree in economics and politics and actually worked in banking for 18 years
So the last 4 chancellors have had no knowledge or training in economics. How is it that they are seen as better at doing the job of chancellor than the current incumbent who has extensive training in economics?

Is it because she's a lady?

Tory/Tory/Tory/Tory/NotTory.

To be honest I'm surprised Andy-mate is so negative. She seems quite reticent about raising taxes on indolent millionaires.
 

multitool

Pharaoh
Tory/Tory/Tory/Tory/NotTory.

To be honest I'm surprised Andy-mate is so negative. She seems quite reticent about raising taxes on indolent millionaires.

Kind of shows how risibly polarised the twitter generation has become.

Claude and acolytes will tell you that Reeves is a neo-fascist genocide-enabler seeking to incarcerate the working class via poverty.

CXRAndy (no acolytes, because nobody is that thick...well maybe Dutchie) will tell you that she is a crypto-communist seeking to collectivise everything, declare year zero, and send the mercantile class to the gulag.
 
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