Starmer's vision quest
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Rusty Nails
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Top marks to Nige for selective accounting there.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
I should be laughing at MAGAndy, relentlessly spamming this topic with his binburner gotchas & frotting himself into a coma at just how hard he's owning all us NACA Lefty Libtard Losers - whilst utterly failing to grasp that everyone (with the exception of poor, gaslit Tool, who's blocked Andy anyway), thinks Starmer & his cabinet are a pack of inept, performatively cruel, backstabbing Red Tory Cünts.
But instead, it's just a bit sad.
But instead, it's just a bit sad.
multitool
Pharaoh
Lol.. I'm not 'gaslit'. I'm just realistic about what any government can do in the face of 14 disastrous preceding years, and no money to put it right.
I'm also aware of what, despite all the tedious wailing here, the government is actually trying to do. Their coms are bad, I'll give you that.
Still, you guys up there ought to be OK. You get way more per capita than people south of the border, which is, of course, where all the money comes from.
Trouble Labour have is they made daft tax promises during the election campaign which is now preventing them from raising funds in a sensible way eg taxing those with the broadest shoulders. So they are taking from elderly in desperate need or hitting business and constraining growth. They (and thus we) are suffering their poor commitments. They seem happy to renege on earlier climate commitments but not on their tax commitments.
Ian
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Something nasty in the woodshed
Ah yes, Scotland - that glorious tax-free paradise which raises no revenue of its own and subsists entirely upon the generosity of its deep-pocketed and benevolent southern neighbour.
It's a wonderful life as a subsidy junkie, all sitting on our lazy fat arses doing fück-all every day, stuffing down deep-fried Mars bars and watching Sky TV on our 65" tellies, not caring that the cycling's gone up to £31 a month because it's all paid for by you mugs.
It's a bloody miracle England doesn't demand we become independent, isn't it?
But oddly - you don't. Makes you wonder.
cookiemonster
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Are you f*cking serious with that comment? The money we get back is ours to begin with, minus whatever Westminster takes off us to spaff up walls.
Why has the Treasury consistently refused to open their books for inspection by the devolved nations? What have they got to hide?
Why do they refuse to scrap the Barnet Formula? The ScotGov have been campaigning for this for about 15 years now. Tax money raised in Scotland, stays in Scotland and the same for England and Wales. But they refuse. Why? Is it because it would put paid to the lie that we're a bunch of scoungers?
Why did all those MPs, of all parties, that campaigned for Brexit, because the EU was too expensive and we should fund the NHS/look after our own etc etc, why have none of them demanded that Scotland gets kicked out of the Union becasue we're too expensive/drain on the hard pressed English taxpayer?
That sentence is just bollox! Andy CXR would be proud of that one.
cookiemonster
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It's £40 billion.
cookiemonster
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So where does all the tax money that we raise go to? It is ours and we get it back minus what you lot decide to piss up a wall.
Also, see GB Energy. A one way pipeline taking energy from Scotland to England, the pipeline leaves Peterhead and lands in Yorkshire. Another massive con trick where Scotland gets nothing in return, and we'll still pay higher transmission charges than the SE, even though we produce the stuff.
All because England hasn't invested in its infrasrtucture. Why should it when it can just pinch ours.
I note that you haven't answered my questions.
multitool
Pharaoh
LOL.
It's clear you are parping straight out of your arsë. Why do you think Scotland didn't vote for independence*
*rhetorical question. It's because Scotland is heavily subsidised by England.
During 2023-24 tax revenue generated in Scotland, including North Sea oil revenues, amounted to £88.5 billion (8.1% of UK total). During the same period, Scotland benefited from about £111.2 billion in public spending (9.1% of UK total). These were both more than Scotland’s 8.1% population share of the UK.
As a result Scotland’s total deficit was £22.7 billion or 10.4% of its total GDP, while the UK-wide deficit was 4.5% of UK GDP.
It's clear you are parping straight out of your arsë. Why do you think Scotland didn't vote for independence*
*rhetorical question. It's because Scotland is heavily subsidised by England.
During 2023-24 tax revenue generated in Scotland, including North Sea oil revenues, amounted to £88.5 billion (8.1% of UK total). During the same period, Scotland benefited from about £111.2 billion in public spending (9.1% of UK total). These were both more than Scotland’s 8.1% population share of the UK.
As a result Scotland’s total deficit was £22.7 billion or 10.4% of its total GDP, while the UK-wide deficit was 4.5% of UK GDP.
cookiemonster
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LOL.
It's clear you are parping straight out of your arsë. Why do you think Scotland didn't vote for independence*
*rhetorical question. It's because Scotland is heavily subsidised by England.
During 2023-24 tax revenue generated in Scotland, including North Sea oil revenues, amounted to £88.5 billion (8.1% of UK total). During the same period, Scotland benefited from about £111.2 billion in public spending (9.1% of UK total). These were both more than Scotland’s 8.1% population share of the UK.
As a result Scotland’s total deficit was £22.7 billion or 10.4% of its total GDP, while the UK-wide deficit was 4.5% of UK GDP.
Scotland, by law under the 1998 Scotland Act, cannot run a deficit. It must produce a balanced budget every year.
So where does this deficit come from? We're not allowed to have one.
According to the ScotGov website, Scotland generated £88.5 billion in tax, of which Scotland will get just £47.7 billion back, figures from the Gov website. England will take almost 50% of our taxes and the Treasury refuses to tell us where the money's being spent.
The £111.2 billion figure doesn't exist anywhere.
So much for talking out of my arse.
Remind me who subsidises who again?
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