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icowden

Squire
If the accused pleaded guilty at the first opportunity, they would be seen in the Magistrates and likely be sentenced there and then
That isn't true. A magistrate cannot sentence for the minimum custodial sentence required for a rape charge.

A magistrates court will see rapists but only to automatically refer them to the Crown Court. It is not possible to plead to rape in a magistrates Court.
 

tarric

Member
That isn't true. A magistrate cannot sentence for the minimum custodial sentence required for a rape charge.

A magistrates court will see rapists but only to automatically refer them to the Crown Court. It is not possible to plead to rape in a magistrates Court.
Don't go hitting him with facts, if it's not on GBB's it's not true.
 

CXRAndy

Active Member
That isn't true. A magistrate cannot sentence for the minimum custodial sentence required for a rape charge.

A magistrates court will see rapists but only to automatically refer them to the Crown Court. It is not possible to plead to rape in a magistrates Court.

Doesn't explain why the crime is recorded as rape in a magistrates court. Unless it's dismissed by some as an apologist trivial matter
 

icowden

Squire
Doesn't explain why the crime is recorded as rape in a magistrates court. Unless it's dismissed by some as an apologist trivial matter
It wasn't. It was reported as such by a reporter they have to sell news and tend to report what someone was accused of rather than what the actual criminal charge was.

As I said - you needed to be there to understand the charge, the evidence and the sentence. You can't just use it as a willy waving example that "all rapists can get away with a £41 fine". Given the lightness of the sentence it's likely that it was a tryst gone wrong in some way. But as we weren't there we don't know. What we do know is that the judge did not feel it met the requirement for a crown court referral and prison sentence.
 
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tarric

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icowden

Squire
Oh those green, emission lowering ministers
Haven't they heard of zoom 😂
I have to agree. I mean they are just amateurs. They have only spent £200k on private jets in 3 months. Rishi Sunak managed £500k in a week. Over 14 months he spent £1.4 million on private jets. And that was *just* him.

So as Rachel said - they have already cracked down on Private Jet use. I believe a substantial amount was due to the necessity of security for Lammy's visit to Israel and China.
 

Psamathe

Active Member
Oh those green, emission lowering ministers

Haven't they heard of zoom 😂


View: https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1887276170745389560?t=Plxynyy8kR8wHM8xOkWEMA&s=19


I have to agree. I mean they are just amateurs. They have only spent £200k on private jets in 3 months. Rishi Sunak managed £500k in a week. Over 14 months he spent £1.4 million on private jets. And that was *just* him.

So as Rachel said - they have already cracked down on Private Jet use. I believe a substantial amount was due to the necessity of security for Lammy's visit to Israel and China.
Add that Starmer some time back (early after GE) cancelled Sunak's £40m private helicopter contract (that's £40m of our money not going to food banks, NHS, etc.)
Starmer cancels Sunak's £40m helicopter contract
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Speaking about the cancellation, a Labour source said that the "Tories' VIP helicopter service" was a "grossly wasteful" symbol of their government that was "totally out of touch with the problems facing the rest of the country"
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(from https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7853gq38p1o)
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Ian
 

CXRAndy

Active Member
Latest fanatics gaining foothold in the UK with potential terrorism attacks

'Incels'.

Yes, you heard it right.

Those who aren't getting any, need to get some, before they blow their tops

:laugh:
 
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