Starmer's vision quest

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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Who care's, Sue Me
You're Welsh. What business is it of yours?

And fu*cking up the country? Not from what I read and hear.

Im also a UK citizen and not a tax exile......

Maybe you need to look at the crock of shoot the SNP have made of the NHS, Education, raising taxes, Drug deaths rising etc etc etc ....i would vote them out, well before voting YES for independence.
 
Im also a UK citizen and not a tax exile......

Maybe you need to look at the crock of shoot the SNP have made of the NHS, Education, raising taxes, Drug deaths rising etc etc etc ....i would vote them out, well before voting YES for independence.

I'm still a UK citizen with a UK passport, which I looked at all of an hour ago to sort out a flight with Thai Airways for Easter next year. And I live in HK for work purposes, not tax you wellie.

The NHS in Scotland is still the best performing in the UK. Figures were released about a month ago. Drug policy is not devolved so the ScotGov have to deal with the crap policy from the Home Office. Education is no worse than England and Wales.

Crock of sh*t? Really?
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Maybe you need to look at the crock of shoot the SNP have made of the NHS, Education, raising taxes, Drug deaths rising etc etc etc ....i would vote them out, well before voting YES for independence.

You need to stop getting your info from Tory red-tops & BBC 'news'!

Also there's a huge assumption that an independent Scotland would be an SNP Scotland. It wouldn't. The SNP would very quickly need to change if they achieved their actual reason to exist. I think they would re-brand & morph into a moderate left-of-centre party, while the more 'traditional' Scottish Labour & Tory parties would cease to be Westminster branch-offices, and share the former SNP voters who were more aligned to their views.

We'd maintain a PR-based parliament and future Scottish governments would be coalitions, like most other small European nations.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Who care's, Sue Me
You need to stop getting your info from Tory red-tops & BBC 'news'!

Also there's a huge assumption that an independent Scotland would be an SNP Scotland. It wouldn't. The SNP would very quickly need to change if they achieved their actual reason to exist. I think they would re-brand & morph into a moderate left-of-centre party, while the more 'traditional' Scottish Labour & Tory parties would cease to be Westminster branch-offices, and share the former SNP voters who were more aligned to their views.

We'd maintain a PR-based parliament and future Scottish governments would be coalitions, like most other small European nations.

the same bollocks being trotted out again when you dont like something......
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
the same bollocks being trotted out again when you dont like something......

I like to think of it as helpful advice to someone who's objectively incorrect, and who's probably taken their information from widely discredited and partisan sources.

But like I said, you do you. :smile:
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Who care's, Sue Me
I like to think of it as helpful advice to someone who's objectively incorrect, and who's probably taken their information from widely discredited and partisan sources.

But like I said, you do you. :smile:

No.1 i dont read red tops and never have

No.2 i dont just watch the bbc, but lots of other political programmes and every pmqs for the past two years or more, i can make my own mind up on the mess the SNP have made of scotland

SNP are a cluster fark of the highest order, need to get their own house in order, before hoisting independence over Scotland
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
No.1 i dont read red tops and never have

No.2 i dont just watch the bbc, but lots of other political programmes and every pmqs for the past two years or more, i can make my own mind up on the mess the SNP have made of scotland

SNP are a cluster fark of the highest order, need to get their own house in order, before hoisting independence over Scotland

All I can say then, it's clearly tragic that the average Scottish voter is nowhere near as staggeringly well-informed as you are.
 
the same bollocks being trotted out again when you dont like something......
Much the same as yourself, minus the insults and false accusations.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Who care's, Sue Me
and heres troll number 3........adds nothing to the thread, but throw accusations and insults. Something he continually blames me for doing.

Double Standards all over the shop.
 

icowden

Squire
The NHS in Scotland is still the best performing in the UK.
I'll second that. One of the more excellent things that Scotland did was *not* do do what the UK did under the National Project for IT and split into regions with multiple bids and providers just to make money for management consultants. They procured a single system for the whole of Scotland. Thus if you go into hospital in Edinburgh, a doctor in Glasgow can read your notes if you subsequently end up there. In England we *still* don't have paperless hospitals where medical records can be easily viewed as an entirety.
 
It's perfectly possible for both things to be true. ie. that this is a great moment for the UK Asian/Hindu community, and also that he's not going to be acting in (most) of their interests. I would imagine it's the first bit of her tweet that got her into bother.
 
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