Starmer's vision quest

[Psamathe]

Doubt it was R Reeves, more likely general loss of confidence in the government. Reeves had some massive bust up with Lyndsey Hoyle just prior to coming into the chamber, according to social media anyway.

There's video of of her talking with the Speaker; not sure it was a "massive bust up". He was though frustrated by her answers on Tuesday and there's an ongoing conflict from way before Starmer about the need to announce stuff to the house before briefing the press.

Best guess is that multiple things both professional and personal got to her.

I'm shocked by the entire thing. so she was upset about something. Her business not ours. Everybody gets upset at times, sometimes about major things sometimes minor, I certainly do, I cry sometimes. Doesn't matter if personal or professional, people get upset sometimes.

To me the madness is how it caused market jitters, cost of Government borrowing to go up and £sterling to drop. To me that an economic system that is not fit for purpose.

Press seems unable to cover anything else! So, she got upset about something. No big deal.

It does highlight unkindness in others eg Ms Badenoch and Starmer.

Ian

 

[Dorset Boy]

I don't understand why Reeves entered (or was allowed by her advisers to enter) the chamber in that state. It really would not have been difficult to say she was feeling unwell, and not been put in the position she was put in so publically.

 

[Psamathe]

I don't understand why Reeves entered (or was allowed by her advisers to enter) the chamber in that state. It really would not have been difficult to say she was feeling unwell, and not been put in the position she was put in so publically.

My guess is because many Labour MPs had been discussing how she was going to take the fall for Starmer's debarkle and had she not been sitting there then that would all but confirmed we'd be getting a new Chancellor.

Things like "feeling unwell" would have been seen as a poor excuse and not quashed rumours.

Ian

 

[BoldonLad]

My guess is because many Labour MPs had been discussing how she was going to take the fall for Starmer's debarkle and had she not been sitting there then that would all but confirmed we'd be getting a new Chancellor.

Things like "feeling unwell" would have been seen as a poor excuse and not quashed rumours.

Ian

Well certainly the "the Chancellor has the Prime Mister's total support" is generally not a good omen.

From the TV coverage, I did think Ms Rayner was looking particularly smug.

Watch this space. 😂

 

[First Aspect]

I don't think it will be particularly damaging for her. It's a tiny bit of tittle tattle and the news cycle will move on.

It was however an opportunity for Kemi BadEnoch to seize upon with glee and turn a great day for the Tories into a moderately good one tempered by having a psychopathic attack dog as party leader.

 

[Shortfall]

I don't think it will be particularly damaging for her. It's a tiny bit of tittle tattle and the news cycle will move on.

It was however an opportunity for Kemi BadEnoch to seize upon with glee and turn a great day for the Tories into a moderately good one tempered by having a psychopathic attack dog as party leader.

Worth bookmarking this to see how it ages.

 

[matticus]

I'm shocked by the entire thing. so she was upset about something. Her business not ours. Everybody gets upset at times, sometimes about major things sometimes minor, I certainly do, I cry sometimes. Doesn't matter if personal or professional, people get upset sometimes.

To me the madness is how it caused market jitters, cost of Government borrowing to go up and £sterling to drop. To me that an economic system that is not fit for purpose.

Press seems unable to cover anything else! So, she got upset about something. No big deal.

It does highlight unkindness in others eg ... and Starmer.

Ian

Oh thank god - for a few paragraphs there I thought you weren't going to criticise the PM.

 

[First Aspect]

Worth bookmarking this to see how it ages.

Whatever her fate over the coming years, this isn't going to be anything to do with it.

 

[Psamathe]

Oh thank god - for a few paragraphs there I thought you weren't going to criticise the PM.

Apparently many Labour MPs discussing her being replaced. Undoubtedly she was being viewed as vulnerable yet when challenged in Parliament Starmer declined to confirm his support for her. He seemed oblivious or not caring or he would immediately have put his support behind her what Ms Badenoch challenged.

Ian

 

[AuroraSaab]

She's going to end up being the scapegoat for what is government policy, with Starmer using her as a cop out for having to do what he said he wouldn't and raise taxes.

 

[First Aspect]

She's going to end up being the scapegoat for what is government policy, with Starmer using her as a cop out for having to do what he said he wouldn't and raise taxes.

This morning's line was that they never said they wouldn't raise taxes (which is true).

They will freeze income tax thresholds. The chancellor always takes the blame for that sort of thing. Nothing to see here, basically.

 

[CXRAndy]

How crazy this situation is

'You are actually using the British people's money to outbid them in the private housing market to give preference to illegal migrants.'

 

[Stevo 666]

I don't see that have much choice but to raise taxes, I expect they are already looking around for who to bash next/more.

 

[Stevo 666]

And in more bad news for Labour, there are rumours that Jezza is plotting a comeback with a new political party. As clearly the answer to our problems is more leftiebollox
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...f-new-party-as-leftwing-alternative-to-labour

And it's in the Guardian so it must be true.

 

[First Aspect]

People's Popular Front of Islington.