monkers
Shaman
Homo Sapiens is the genus 'wise man' but I invite people on the thread to use the term sparingly in certain company or otherwise do as they wish with it.
Starmer's vision quest
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Homo Sapiens is the genus 'wise man' but I invite people on the thread to use the term sparingly in certain company or otherwise do as they wish with it.
CXRAndy
Squire
Better than the £3k they normally pay.
No one should be able to strong arm the government to paying to leave.
Whilst being a great outcome, it should have never been allowed to happen.
We have a man Wayne Broadhurst murdered by another illegal immigrant. Two other seriously injured
Not a single word by the prime minister, mainstream media silence.
Its like they dont want us to know, an inevitable everyday occurrence in broken Britain.
Stevo 666
Veteran
How about a vote on whether we want to stay in a union with Scotland? We could always invite the Welsh and Northern Irish to take part if needed.
glasgowcyclist
Veteran
How about answering what I asked?
What would satisfy you as having had your ‘say’, not a vote, without it being a vehicle for granting or denying permission to Scotland to hold an independence referendum?
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
You probably realise you are wasting your time with that line of enquiry.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Y'know - I kind of like that idea.
The version where Scotland, NI & Wales vote to be part of a union of independent Celtic nations, & England fucks off into a bin.
But that probably wasn't what you had in mind.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Is the population of Scotland and Wales still, predominantly Celtic?
Are such thoughts mildly racist?
Pblakeney
Veteran
Not how he would have worded it but I suspect that is exactly what he has in mind.
First Aspect
Veteran
The most effective "say" that rUK should have is on issues such as currency, trade relationship, the border, defence spending, the national debt, marine boundaries.
That was Scotland could make a more informed decision.
Things Scots have been told by nationalists include:
- the rUK will let Scotland share the pound, in a currency union. Lie. In fact, Scotland would be able to use pounds, the dollar, monopoly money or even the oak leaf if it wanted, but would be a nation without it's own currency. Like Perto Rico.
(- currently they are saying the Scottish peso is an alternative option.)
- there would be no border checks with England. Lie. Particularly if Scotland magically enters the EU.
- Scotland will immediately rejoin the EU. Lie. It could apply immediately, but the financial criteria would take a generation to meet and that would be painful in the extreme. That also supposes that Spain would be amenable to allowing a breakaway region to join.
- the EU will let Scotland join without adopting the Euro. Lie.
- the rUK would continue military spending in a foreign country, inter alia shipyards and naval docks. Lie. The news from the MoD that personnel in Rosyth would be moved to Portsmouth was refuted as a "threat" by the SNP, whereas it's merely the inevitable consequences of facilities finding themselves in another country.
- Scotland is not on the hook for its share of UK national debt. Lie.
- Scotland can have it's own sovereign wealth fund like Norway. That one always made me chuckle. I suppose it's true, except there'd be nothing in it.
Sorry to bang on, but the tub thumpers on here seems to think I wasn't up there or paying attention for long enough to track the moving target of b0llocks coming from one side of the "debate".
Queue stroppy indignant responses.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
He said Celtic nations, not nations of Celtic people.
Not sure if you are a native of the Newcastle area, but that was a Celtic area before the the Romans came.
GB is a nation of mongrels.
First Aspect
Veteran
Hard to say because the SNP insisted upon Scottishifying the last census, and it was a total cock up.
However it is at least overwhelmingly white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland
Ian H
Squire
They tend to be healthier and live longer.
Rusty Nails
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Ian H
Squire
I'm not for sale! Okay?
I'm mostly Lancastrian, with a distant bit of ancestral Irish and one Spanish grandparent.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
- Location
- South Tyneside
Well, I was born in the Wearside area, as was my father, but, my paternal grandfather was Scots, on my mothers “side” a bit of Jewishness, and, would you believe a bit of Yemeni, and that is only in the recent past, so, personally, I don’t care too much for all this ancestry shite. 😊
