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Don't pretend not to understand
Starmer's vision quest
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Don't pretend not to understand
icowden
Squire
So all refugees should go to other countries. Got it. What if they implement the same policy? Where do they go then? Refugees tend to naturally split between countries. We are nowhere near taking the heaviest burden.
Got it. We should leave them to starve and die of exposure on the streets. Very cost effective. Do we also refuse emergency medical care when they are malnourished and ill? What is the impact on the illegal sex industry and human trafficking? Do we need more POlice for that are does it not matter because they are foreign?
Oh - so you want to put them in prison. That's a saving of about £5k per refugee.
I'm still waiting for the details of the intercept plan from you and @CXRAndy. You don't seem to have one yet.
Bear in mind that you can't break international maritime law.
How well do you think the French will look for the small boats? Is there any chance that they might spot them when they are say, around about 12 miles offshore and in British waters before shrugging their shoulders, saying "Bof!" and lighting a gauloise?
Tbf, I think we should get a refund from France as that's a lot of money to give them for shrugging their shoulders, saying "Bof!" and lighting a gauloise.
CXRAndy
Guru
National emergency-effectively war footing
24 hour drone surveillance across the channel. High speed interceptor boats, larger return vessels, drop them off back on France.
icowden
Squire
But how are you going to prove that you are getting value for money?
The sensible course would have been not to give money to France in the first place and to set up legal routes for people to apply for Asylum. Take the jobs away from the traffickers.
At the same time, we could join some sort of co-operative group of European countries and work on a strategy across Europe to help asylum seekers in a fair way without overburdening any individual country...
I agree with your sensible choice but that seems to be inconceivable to all in government.
To answer your question, count the boats before and after. No value for money reduction, refund, or cancellation at least.
I put this plan on a par with Rwanda. Being seen to be doing something, paying off those to go along with it, waste of money.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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It is beyond my ability to work out if this would be financially viable, but, "gut feeling" suggests it would, bearing in mind the vast sums spent on Rwanda "solution", French "solution", Hotel accommodation etc:
- lay on free ferry Calais - Dover
- increase "processing staff" numbers, and, base them onboard the ferry
- process each asylum seeker as they board, those who pass, free ride to Dover, those who fail, disembarked before sailing.
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
If the danger was that obvious then I'm sure I would have spotted it.
CXRAndy
Guru
Instead of playing 'whack a mole' for what you're trying to get at
Just say it
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
Instead of playing 'whack a mole' for what you're trying to get at
Just say it
Some people take the approach of 'why explain when you can be a smartarse'...
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Don't forget the machine guns. Let's see those .50cal incendiary rounds ripping into their soft, puny bodies & shocked, wide-eyed, terrified faces at 1500 rpm, reducing them to red spray and bloodrags on the surface of the water if they DO NOT COMPLY IMMEDIATELY.
That's what you really want.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
I reckon he's got a copy of the 2008 Rambo on repeat and believes it's a documentary.
Cracking film btw. All the Rambos are.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Agreed. The original First Blood's a stone-cold classic.
