Starmer's vision quest

[Shortfall]

No evidence then.

See my previous answer. There's lots of conflicting reports about whether there's an exodus of wealthy people and we can trade articles supporting our own views but for what? The test will be whether the government has the tax base to finance it's program in the coming years. Let me ask you a question. Do you think there is a level of taxation where it is more likely that the rich and/or higher rate tax payers will move offshore or can the government continue to raise taxes without this occurring?

 

[briantrumpet]

If this is accurate, it's no wonder Starmer is lost, if he doesn't get why his own MPs are pissed off with him. It's not the comms team or the whips that are the problem, it's the constant pandering to Reform and not telling a positive story about more progressive politics.

 

[secretsqirrel]

If this is accurate, it's no wonder Starmer is lost, if he doesn't get why his own MPs are pissed off with him. It's not the comms team or the whips that are the problem, it's the constant pandering to Reform and not telling a positive story about more progressive politics.

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Hmm that reads like:-

Call centre worker: “Boss, there is low morale in the team, we get complaints all day, nobody likes our products, and people want to leave and work elsewhere”

Boss: “I hear you, so we have a plan to reshuffle our HR team. How does that sound?”

 

[monkers]

Tax problems.

In tax accounting, 'things' are treated as assets, and their cost are written down to depreciation. People are treated as costs, their pay and benefits are treated as costs.

A patch of tarmac 20ft x10ft can attract parking fees of £120 per day - no problem especially as part hour parking is charged at the full hourly rate. This is 50% more than the pay of young person at minimum wage. Shareholders always put first, before workers or customers.

Capitalism advances that land, buildings and equipment are valued more highly than people.

To transition away from this business model that values people as staff or customers at the lowest value, we must initiate a reversal. This can be done by initiating a process of taking back control of national assets, placing high taxes on large high value private estates used for the owners leisure, and taxing the work output of robots (that come over here stealing our jobs!). In work hours a robot performs 4.2 times the hours of a full time employee, and should be taxed as such.

We must levy more environmental taxes to ensure that those who pollute the most must pay for its reduction. Frequent flyers should pay a frequent flyer levy. Aviation fuel should not be subsidised - domestic energy should be prioritised.

It is anti-capitalist to say we must put the interests of people first. We need to renew the social contract.

These are my opinions. Opinions will and should vary. Shout at me with memes and I'll just ignore you.

 

[Pross]

"English is a minority language in London"

Wow. It isn't.

It is, they all wander around in pearl encrusted clothing talking in some weird rhyming language. I've never been able to speak to anyone on my trips there.

 

[briantrumpet]

Hmm that reads like:-

Call centre worker: “Boss, there is low morale in the team, we get complaints all day, nobody likes our products, and people want to leave and work elsewhere”

Boss: “I hear you, so we have a plan to reshuffle our HR team. How does that sound?”

Indeed. And no-one has been able to pierce the McSweeney/Glasman protective bubble that Starmer's surrounded himself with to open his eyes to how ill-conceived their agenda is.

 

[Psamathe]

Hmm that reads like:-

Call centre worker: “Boss, there is low morale in the team, we get complaints all day, nobody likes our products, and people want to leave and work elsewhere”

Boss: “I hear you, so we have a plan to reshuffle our HR team. How does that sound?”

Or send them for retraining. Where have I heard that before? ... oh yes, CPS under Starmer.

 

[AndyRM]

Hmm that reads like:-

Call centre worker: “Boss, there is low morale in the team, we get complaints all day, nobody likes our products, and people want to leave and work elsewhere”

Boss: “I hear you, so we have a plan to reshuffle our HR team. How does that sound?”

We prefer to be called Contact centre workers these days.

 

[secretsqirrel]

We prefer to be called Contact centre workers these days.

Soz,

At least I said HR and not Personnel. I was endlessly corrected in one place I worked for insisting on saying Personnel. It was deliberate as I objected to being a Resource.

 

[First Aspect]

Soz,

At least I said HR and not Personnel. I was endlessly corrected in one place I worked for insisting on saying Personnel. It was deliberate as I objected to being a Resource.

HR are now being rebranded as "People" teams, to reflect how employers don't really treat people as humans.

 

[briantrumpet]

This is a longish but (I think) spot-on analysis of the hopelessness of the Blue Labour strategy that is sinking Labour.

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2025/11/blue-labours-electoral-fallacies.html

The first Blue Labour electoral fallacy is that what worked in opposition will work in government. I have agreed that this strategy makes sense in opposition, because the voters that make up Labour’s social liberal base would still vote for them where it mattered as the priority was to get the Conservatives out. It therefore helped Labour in oppositon to say things that might not put off more socially conservative voters from either voting Labour, or at least not voting Conservative to keep Labour out.

But I have also consistently argued that this strategy doesn’t work when Labour achieves power. (In December 24 I called it the politics of stupid.) That has been obvious in the polls for some time. Most of those socially conservative voters will not be happy with the record of whatever government is in power on issues like immigration and asylum, pretty well irrespective of what happens to immigration or asylum numbers. As a result, even if they didn’t vote against Labour in 2024, they almost certainly will in 2029. The media will do their bit to ensure that happens. In contrast, social liberals who ignored what Labour said in opposition when voting Labour in 2024 would find it much more difficult to ignore actions when Labour is in government.