Strike!

[Mugshot]

Brilliant, the response of a Student Union debating vice-captain.

Seriously Craig, you're in no position to throw this accusation around, not while your hyperbole is stinking the place up.

 

[Deleted member 49]

But we left the EU.

Your right and what ? Your not going to support the strikers cause Lynch is a Brexiteer.
Peak 2022 politics....I really couldn't care less.

 

[winjim]

Now this is true, but the topic has broadened a bit hasn't it?

Do you think medical types should be able to walk out? Would you be happy for your children to die in the cause of a 7% pay increase for me and winjim?

I have solidarity with healthcare workers striking over pay. I happen to be in a union which doesn't strike, which allows us to support those who do. If the BMS staff walked, the clinical scientists would step in to keep the service running. Like I said, last time we planned for it.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

Note I was contradicting you, not agreeing with you.

Maybe you need to be clearer then, because I said he left the room after an offer was made, you then aid he left the room after an offer was made, I didn't see the subtle contradiction there.

Maybe type it in red if you are disagreeing with me so people know?

 

[winjim]

Your right and what ? Your not going to support the strikers cause Lynch is a Brexiteer.
Peak 2022 politics....I really couldn't care less.

I do support the strikers. I don't think that the RMT has always acted in the best interests of its members.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Another bullshit story for you @Craig the cyclist
https://www.theguardian.com/society...-covid-say-doctors?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

[Craig the cyclist]

I have solidarity with healthcare workers striking over pay. I happen to be in a union which doesn't strike, which allows us to support those who do. If the BMS staff walked, the clinical scientists would step in to keep the service running. Like I said, last time we planned for it.

Is it just Unison and the GMB who don't have no striking in their charters?

 

[Ian H]

If the Brexit fantasy that the RMT were proposing in 2016 had come true then there would be no need to strike.

1. Leave the EU to end attacks on rail workers
2. Leave the EU to end attacks on seafarers and the offshore workers
3. Leave the EU to end attacks on workers’ rights
4. Leave the EU to end Austerity
5. Leave the EU to stop the attack on our NHS
6. Leave the EU to support democracy

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-sets-out-six-key-reasons-for-leaving-the-eu/


I support the strikes but this is a GBD government so to a certain extent the RMT has made their bed and should lie in it. And no boohooing about how they supported Corbyn and this wasn't the Brexit they wanted. This is Brexit and they played a part in us getting to where we are. Now has a single one of their six reasons come true?

You appear to be close to suggesting that, because the RMT supported Brexit, they shouldn't be negotiating for their members now.

 

[winjim]

You appear to be close to suggesting that, because the RMT supported Brexit, they shouldn't be negotiating for their members now.

That's not my intention and I may be falling victim to hyperbole. I'm trying to point out that I believe they were misguided in their support of Brexit, and Brexit has led to us having this Tory government.

 

[Deleted member 49]

That's not my intention and I may be falling victim to hyperbole. I'm trying to point out that I believe they were misguided in their support of Brexit, and Brexit has led to us having this Tory government.

I take where your coming from but it's easy to forget how long we've been in this sh1tstorm of the Tories.
Austerity started well before the referendum.

 

[Ian H]

Maybe you need to be clearer then, because I said he left the room after an offer was made, you then aid he left the room after an offer was made, I didn't see the subtle contradiction there.

Maybe type it in red if you are disagreeing with me so people know?

Type in red! I'm not even going to bother pointing out where you are blatantly misquoting me.

 

[winjim]

Is it just Unison and the GMB who don't have no striking in their charters?

I think Unison and GMB will both strike? I'm sure they did in 2012. Anyway, BMS staff are mostly Unite, clinical scientists are ACB/FCS. Unite will strike, FCS won't.

 

[winjim]

I take where your coming from but it's easy to forget how long we've been in this sh1tstorm of the Tories.
Austerity started well before the referendum.

And the RMT said that leaving the EU would end it.

 

[BoldonLad]

Firstly it wasn't a democratic vote, secondly a union supporting or opposing a political decision will affect the way its members vote, that's the point, thirdly I'm not discrediting the strike and fourthly and most importantly I paid subs to Unite for about fifteen years and for that I got a pay freeze, a devalued pension, lost pay through striking, and Brexit. I would literally be better off if I'd never joined, to the tune of about two and a half grand.

A bit "me, me, me" isn't that, I thought Unions were supposed to be a collective organisation?

 

[Deleted member 49]

And the RMT said that leaving the EU would end it.

Do you think when they was recommending voting leave they had Johnsons hard Brexit in mind ?
Think I'm done with the Brexit thing in this thread,i can't be arsed.
If you use this to beat Lynch and the Unions your playing into their hands.