Strike!

[BoldonLad]

Where did you search for total nursing workforce? It is 360,000 not 3 million.

We went to school at the same time, in the good old days before calculators, and the way I was taught meant that 1% of 360,000 is 3,600 not 30,000.

40,000 is approx 11% of 360,000.

A bit of a difference, and significant in a job which has a long training/qualification period.

The biggest proportion of leavers by far are those nurses aged 25 - 34.

Edit: @stowie beat me to it.

I think @newfhouse house was first actually, nice to see some people are awake however.

I will have to think about that one, I am having difficulty thinking what other life event frequently happens in that age bracket.

 

[newfhouse]

Only @newfhouse was awake.

Can’t sleep while inaccuracy exists on the internet.

 

[BoldonLad]

Can’t sleep while inaccuracy exists on the internet.

A long time without sleep awaits you

 

[Deleted member 49]

I didn't say you did. I said, I looked up the figure, to work out the %ge. Only @newfhouse was awake.

Lol....keep digging.I didn't question your figures.You were the one that chose to say it was 1%.You got it wrong....wildly wrong big deal.Cant say it really interested me either way.
Have you a actually got a opinion in any of this though ?

 

[BoldonLad]

My maths might be letting me down, but if 30,000 is 1% then the total number of NHS nurses is 3M? That seems... a lot since I recall total number of NHS staff at a bit over 1M.

I think 30,000 is closer to being 10% but haven't checked figures.

I think @newfhouse was awake before you, but, well done for keeping up

 

[BoldonLad]

Lol....keep digging.I didn't question your figures.You were the one that chose to say it was 1%.You got it wrong....wildly wrong big deal.Cant say it really interested me either way.
Have you a actually got a opinion in any of this though ?

In which case, there is little point in commenting further.

 

[Deleted member 49]

commenting

That's your input then....1% lol.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Just watching some clips of Mick Lynch upsetting Richard Madeley, Alan Sugar and Piers Morgan amongst others lol....surely that alone deserves some support !
Alan Sugar ffs....
"Mick Lynch loves the cameras. He got stitched up by @GMB today. Next thing is he will be doing strictly or appearing on Graham Norton. Any one know how much he is paid."

 

[albion]

Richard Madly now methinks.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...eley-mick-lynch-gmb-rmt-strikes-b2244078.html

 

[Wobblers]

If pay does not keep up recruitment will suffer ! That’s in any job !

It's funny isn't it: that's just standard market economics - right out of the first page of the usual right wing mythology. It's odd that this somehow doesn't apply to actually paying people properly, isn't it?

 

[Wobblers]

30,000 sounds a lot, but, it is approximately 1% of the nurse workforce. Not remarkable IMHO.

That would imply that there's 3 million NHS nurses. One in twenty for the whole UK population, which seems rather high. Perhaps you ought to check your workings? And your sources.

Edit: I appear to be adding my voice to a veritable chorus here - looks like there's a few professional data wranglers in this remote corner of the internet...

 

[Rusty Nails]

That would imply that there's 3 million NHS nurses. One in twenty for the whole UK population, which seems rather high. Perhaps you ought to check your workings? And your sources.

Edit: I appear to be adding my voice to a veritable chorus here - looks like there's a few professional data wranglers in this remote corner of the internet...

And some data manglers.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

It's amazing what can happen when there's someone in charge that actually knows what they're doing.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/2...ncreased-pay-offer-scotland-call-off-strikes/

Why isn't Sunak doing the same thing?

That isn't so much about someone in charge knowing what they are doing, it is more about the Scottish unions accepting 7.5% and not holding out for 18%.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

My question was about the effect of real terms pay cuts on recruitment and retention. Are you willing to address that?

Of course. Sorry for the delay, I have spent nearly two days planning for the strikes!

Most jobs in the NHS are hugely over applied for, people are desperate to join the NHS workforce. We advertised a few months ago for an administrator, Band 5. Over 100 applications, which doesn't strike me as a place where recruitment and retention are issues.

 

[cookiemonster]

That isn't so much about someone in charge knowing what they are doing, it is more about the Scottish unions accepting 7.5% and not holding out for 18%.

The question is why is Sunak not doing the same thing?

And, yes, Nicola Sturgeon knows what's she's doing?