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theclaud

Reading around the chip
No he didn't, he just spouted a load of figures out which wasn't clear.

When you say 'not clear', you mean you can't be arsed to get your head around them. Which is understandable if you don't need to, but maybe don't ask questions if you are not interested in the answers.

Anyway it's not his fault the rules for claiming benefits are labyrinthine. It's a confusopoly by design.
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis


I am 100% in favour of finding alternative ways, including using the army if necessary, to ensure that emergency services are covered during periods of industrial action.


This is kind of why emergency services striking will always be of limited effectiveness, you can't put the public at unnecessary risk.
 

Craig the cyclist

Über Member
As an example, my wife's just been telling me about one of her nurses who qualified seven years ago and even though she's just been promoted to a Band 6, she has to use a food bank as amongst other things, she's still paying off her punitive student loan.

That is a lie.

The fees for nurses did not start until autumn 2017, so she would not have qualified until summer 2020, which is a bit over two years ago.
 

Craig the cyclist

Über Member
Indeed. What a shame our good friend - you-know-who hasn't put in an appearance to challenge the earlier post. Mind you, he knew he was on a loser there so no surprise.

I assume you mean me? No I have been on three days of over 12 hours working to mitigate the strike impact. My first meeting on Thursday was with at 0630, the last one was with the same group and some others at 2200.

Friday was the same, yesterday was a different rhythm, but still 0700 until 2000.

I will try and catch up, obviously I have already pointed out one lie you have told, leave me with it........
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
The correct answer would of been "I am 100% behind the striking workers"
I bet his dad is so proud of him 🙄

That wasn't the question though. Also that video has clearly been very heavily edited, hear how he's cut off at the end.

If emergency services are striking, alternative provision needs to be made whether you support the striking workers or not.
 
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When you say 'not clear', you mean you can't be arsed to get your head around them. Which is understandable if you don't need to, but maybe don't ask questions if you are not interested in the answers.

Anyway it's not his fault the rules for claiming benefits are labyrinthine. It's a confusopoly by design.

Perhaps you did understand this fully, good on ya!

I work for what I get so have never needed to calculate these things, I was just surprised that someone earning £35k (which I happen to think is is a decent wage) they could still claim another £600 per month due to having kids.
Universal Credit will pay £640 but the £600 for the rent is part of the calculation. You don't get that as well.

Your monthly take home after tax/NI and pension contributions is about £1850. You keep the first £344 as a Work Allowance the rest counts against Universal Credit as a taper rate of 55p for every £1 earned.
 

Craig the cyclist

Über Member
You're a disgrace to your supposed profession. You know what solidarity means? It means solidarity with your profession, not solidarity with the organisation that has a knife in your backs.
No lieing though, like your 'As Senior As A Nurse Can Get Wife'.
You talk of solidarity, but 00,000s of nurses voted not to strike, whole Trusts did not get to the threshold as the vote wasn't enough. I assume you imagine all those nurses to be a disgrace as well? There is no solidarity in this strike, you are deluded if you think there is.

I’m shocked and disgusted by this comment.
Excellent

It'll help by retaining staff thus less spending on agency fees.
'Agency fees', this is so often trotted out. You do realise that most Trusts don't go to agencies first don't you? They have protocols in place to use other nurses first.

Better wages means that it will be easier to find people for those unfilled vacancies. So, yes, it will get extra staff. This is elementary economics.
I disagree. Nursing does not work like that. If you put up wages do you think that lots of extra nurses will suddenly appear?
If they are off the register, then they need to go through a return to practice course. If they are pre-reg they can't apply for registered nurse posts.

the creeping disdain, sometimes open resentment they are now facing from the public stirred up by the right-wing press.
If you think that resentment and disdain is only happening now you need to speak to your wife if she exists.
The NHS has mandated conflict resolution training for front line NHS staff for at least the last 15/20 years, due mainly to the amount of abuse that staff get from the public.
We had a brief holiday when we were Angels during Covid, now that has largely worn off and will increase in tempo with these strikes as people see their loved ones impacted.

I don't disagree we need a pay rise, but this totally unrealistic demand is childish and stupid.
 
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