The NCAP Soccerball Thread

[Beebo]

The problem for UEFA is that the smaller nations are scared of UEFA and will side with FIFA if they think it still benefits them. One member one vote is a huge benefit for the smaller countries to get heard.
As without FIFA helping them they are at the risk of UEFA domination.

 

[Pblakeney]

The problem for UEFA is that the smaller nations are scared of UEFA and will side with FIFA if they think it still benefits them. One member one vote is a huge benefit for the smaller countries to get heard.
As without FIFA helping them they are at the risk of UEFA domination.

The flaw in that logic is the smaller countries thinking that FIFA actually have their interests at heart.

 

[Beebo]

The flaw in that logic is the smaller countries thinking that FIFA actually have their interests at heart.

It’s the lesser of two evils.

 

[AndyRM]

Apparently it would be a terrible mistake to remove Infantino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg7m3nk013mo

#bringbackthevaguelycovertcorruptionofblatter

 

[Pblakeney]

Apparently it would be a terrible mistake to remove Infantino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg7m3nk013mo

#bringbackthevaguelycovertcorruptionofblatter

Yeah, and nobody cares what he thinks.
That is the one thing that would hurt Donnie the most, being ignored.

 

[laurentian]

The flaw in that logic is the smaller countries thinking that FIFA actually have their interests at heart.

I find this an interesting comment.

I was in Bhutan in 2017. About two years after Sepp Blatter was suspended/resigned from FIFA. I thought Blatter was about as venal reprehensible and corrupt as anyone could get (how wrong I was!) and was glad to see the back of him.

Whilst in Thimpu I was shown the (modest) national stadium that the "locals" were very proud of. A refurbishment a few years earlier had been funded by FIFA and they loved Sepp Blatter.

Not sure what or if Blatter got anything out of this but it does, perhaps, demonstrate why many footballing nations stand four square behind FIFA

 

[Pblakeney]

I find this an interesting comment.

I was in Bhutan in 2017. About two years after Sepp Blatter was suspended/resigned from FIFA. I thought Blatter was about as venal reprehensible and corrupt as anyone could get (how wrong I was!) and was glad to see the back of him.

Whilst in Thimpu I was shown the (modest) national stadium that the "locals" were very proud of. A refurbishment a few years earlier had been funded by FIFA and they loved Sepp Blatter.

Not sure what or if Blatter got anything out of this but it does, perhaps, demonstrate why many footballing nations stand four square behind FIFA

Gets votes. Then once in power they've got to be seen to be doing something worthwhile in order to fill their pockets. Call it a front.
I'm sure that the Corleone family would have been very popular with some people. (Fictional story but good analogy).

 

[laurentian]

Gets votes. Then once in power they've got to be seen to be doing something worthwhile in order to fill their pockets. Call it a front.
I'm sure that the Corleone family would have been very popular with some people. (Fictional story but good analogy).

Yeah - it's tricky! Gets votes for sure but those votes improve their facilities . . .

 

[Pblakeney]

Yeah - it's tricky! Gets votes for sure but those votes improve their facilities . . .

The Kray twins did some good too.

 

[briantrumpet]

Yeah, and nobody cares what he thinks.
That is the one thing that would hurt Donnie the most, being ignored.

They ignore Donnie when he drops a brown fart or dozes off mid press conference.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Apparently it would be a terrible mistake to remove Infantino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg7m3nk013mo

#bringbackthevaguelycovertcorruptionofblatter

This whole thing is clearly the brain(dead)child of the idiot Son-in-Law Kushner. It just exemplifies the US avarice that they have no idea how football operates and where the power actually lies. They thought they could use Infantino as their puppet to make even more billions. The complete lack of insight into the global significance of football and the fact they would not be allowed to get away with this is quite funny.

 

[Pross]

Gets votes. Then once in power they've got to be seen to be doing something worthwhile in order to fill their pockets. Call it a front.
I'm sure that the Corleone family would have been very popular with some people. (Fictional story but good analogy).

The real-life equivalent would be the cartels in Colombia building schools and hospitals and basically providing the locals with the stuff the big, bad government failed to give them. When push comes to shove then who do the locals support? It's far easier to bribe those that have very little and they will also be a lot cheaper. The problem FIFA have is that international tournaments without European teams wouldn't hold much commercial appeal and they wouldn't make much money from them. If UEFA and CONCAF had a breakaway competition I suspect it would be more commercially valuable than a 'World' Cup without them.

 

[icowden]

It’s the lesser of two evils.

As opposed to

 

[Psamathe]

UEFA not toning it down at all.

https://www.uefa.com/news-media/new...a0f-1000--open-letter-to-the-football-family/

I'm no football fan, don't watch, etc. but whilst people keep saying Infant has enough votes to stay in power (eg from Africa) I would suspect UEFA has more "power" in that would there be a "World Cup" without European teams? Or at least would it generate the same interest, same profits for distribution to those supporting Infant?

Maybe UEFA's vow to boycott might just give it power beyond just the votes it can cast.

Sorry, same point as Pross made above (that I hadn't yet scrolled down to).

 

[secretsqirrel]

UEFA needs to offer an alternative to Infantino, preferably no-European.