The Queen / The Monarchy

[glasgowcyclist]

I was sh*t at football as a kid, other kids became professional footballers should I feel there is an inequality in that?

Did you like playing football as a kid? I mean, did you ever have dreams of turning professional, assuming you had the right skills?

 

[multitool]

Getting strong sense he was a runt

 

[All uphill]

Right then, there are 'some people ' that despise and loathe other people that are born into 'privilege ' because they aren't, however, they want the things that these very people they despise for themselves and mix in those circles?

Not you obviously because you are 'accepted ' apparently.

I don't loathe or despise those people.

I loathe and despise the institution and what it stands for.

There's a big difference.

 

[Pale Rider]

I don't have a hatred for them....and it isn't just about what effect they have on me, you selfish little ballbag.

I'm afraid I'm not going to pander to your low literacy levels. You are old enough to have done something about it, but ironically your failure at school can probably be traced back to low aspirations, which in turn could be linked to class system oppression.

Of course, it might just be that you are a little bit dim.

Getting strong sense he was a runt

Oh dear, touched a nerve did he?

Are these typical posts your idea of your oh so intellectually superior debate?

With enemies like you, the monarchy is so safe it has no need of its friends.

God save the King!

 

[newfhouse]

tell me what harm or financial disadvantage having a Monarchy in this country has done to directly affect you?

A few years back my mum suffered a distraction burglary. You weren’t harmed or directly affected. Can I take it that you DGAF or, more likely I hope, do you think that we should enact policies and practices that reduce crime?

 

[multitool]

Oh dear, touched a nerve did he?

Are these typical posts your idea of your oh so intellectually superior debate?

With enemies like you, the monarchy is so safe it has no need of its friends.

God save the King!

Wondering why you are poking your nose in.

 

[Deleted member 28]

A few years back my mum suffered a distraction burglary. You weren’t harmed or directly affected. Can I take it that you DGAF or, more likely I hope, do you think that we should enact policies and practices that reduce crime?

This means f**k all to me pal!

Have you got an answer then, what harm does having the Monarchy do to anyone you know then?

 

[newfhouse]

This means f**k all to me pal!

I can write answers to your questions but I can't understand them for you.

 

[Pale Rider]

Wondering why you are poking your nose in.

Come on, even you know exercising your right to interfere is a fundamental principle of internet forums.

While I'm on:

Current polling suggests a marked change in the attitude of young demographic. If the demographic that succeeds it feels the same, and the youth moving to their 40s maintain their distaste for the monarchy then the game is up.

I suspect that as we move further away from age of empire and those (like Pale Rider) who were socialised into belief in monarchy die off that this change will happen.

Having a pop at the monarchy is as old as the monarchy itself.

It's true that bootlickers such as Pale Rider will die off, but so will his abolitionist contemporaries, meaning the abolitionist cause loses support.

Your view of the younger ones pre-supposes they keep the same view throughout their lifetime.

Experience suggests otherwise.

People who were politically active as youngsters tend to withdraw from the scene as careers and families take precedence.

They may return when time and circumstances allow, but with different views informed by their life experience in the meantime.

Or not, but there is no guarantee the younger ones who are against the monarchy now will become lifelong campaigners.

 

[Deleted member 28]

I loathe and despise the institution and what it stands for.

Why?

What exactly in your eyes does 'it' stand for?

What affect does it have on you or anyone close to you, do you lose money due to the 'institution' or know anyone who has been harmed due to 'it'?

I'm just trying to understand any other reason for the bitterness you people have if it isn't jealousy of some sort.

 

[multitool]

Come on, even you know exercising your right to interfere is a fundamental principle of internet forums.

While I'm on:


Having a pop at the monarchy is as old as the monarchy itself.

It's true that bootlickers such as Pale Rider will die off, but so will his abolitionist contemporaries, meaning the abolitionist cause loses support.

Your view of the younger ones pre-supposes they keep the same view throughout their lifetime.

Experience suggests otherwise.

People who were politically active as youngsters tend to withdraw from the scene as careers and families take precedence.

They may return when time and circumstances allow, but with different views informed by their life experience in the meantime.

Or not, but there is no guarantee the younger ones who are against the monarchy now will become lifelong campaigners.

You need to calm down and actually read posts. All of the caveats you describe are in there.

 

[multitool]

Also, the fervour of Pale Rider for monarchy whilst never actually being able to lay out why it is beneficial is very reminiscent of people indoctrinated into religious belief by their families.

There is a sort of entitled blind rage that they must be right, because it is self-evident (although they can't explain why)

I suppose the process of indoctrination is similar for both social institutions.

 

[Pale Rider]

the fervour of Pale Rider for monarchy whilst never actually being able to lay out why it is beneficial

You lie so easily.

I have laid out the benefits of the monarchy several times, but I suppose there's none so blind as those who will not see.

Nor am I fervent about the monarchy, I just, generally, like them and what they represent.

As observed, there's been far more fervour and vitriol coming from the other side.

 

[mudsticks]

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It is yes, I was sh*t at football as a kid, other kids became professional footballers should I feel there is an inequality in that?

Some people have parents with their own businesses that can provide a better opportunity for their kids than I could for mine, is that 'fair'?

Take it a step up, Millionaire business owners can provide more for their kids than even someone like you who is 'accepted ' (you still haven't explained WTF that's supposed to mean, by the way) so is that 'fair '?

Are you a commie?

I'm assuming that who does, and doesn't get into a football team is done on raw talent.??
So no 'favouritism' leg-ups there I guess.
Sorry to here you were a bit sh*t at it - still you get to enjoy watching others do it well, so some compensation there, maybe. 🤔

The other inequalities, and levelling up of opportunity and access to resources, could be addressed by much more socially democratic government action (such as better funded, and managed health, and education policies) being paid for by progressive taxation, so that wealth and privilege doesn't unfairly accrue in one group, whilst leaving others suffering badly from a deficit.

The priveleged hierarchical 'entitled' system promoted by monarchy goes against the principals of the above.

Many of the Scandinavian countries, and other parts of Europe, in fact The EU as a whole seek to address this inequality.

We have particularly high levels of inequality, for a 'westernised' country.

But those other places that do better by their citizenry in general, are not 'communist' countries no.

I do live in a mutually beneficial, and supportive community, yes.

Does that make me a 'commie'??

In your reductive view, perhaps.

If so, then lucky me the 'communist' 🌈🌱💃🦫🎠🙄

 

[multitool]

You lie so easily.

I have laid out the benefits of the monarchy several times, but I suppose there's none so blind as those who will not see.

You'll be able to link to your posts where you have done this, then, won't you.

Nor am I fervent about the monarchy, I just, generally, like them and what they represent.

As observed, there's been far more fervour and vitriol coming from the other side.

No that's just your cognitive dissonance and blinkered view blinding you to your actual words, which are suffused with arrogance of a man who thinks he is right about everything, but never actually says anything worth saying.

As for fervour, you keep posting here, replying to everything I post, regardless of whether you are quoted or not.