The UK’s broken asylum system

[glasgowcyclist]

Well clearly they don't want any asylum seekers coming here, perhaps it's you that struggles to understand?

I understand their position fine. Why don’t they just say so instead of lying?

 

[Pale Rider]

I understand their position fine. Why don’t they just say so instead of lying?

How many more 'stop the small boats' headlines do you need?

 

[Bromptonaut]

How many more 'stop the small boats' headlines do you need?

We get that.

It's the why lie about safe routes bit we're contesting.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

How many more 'stop the small boats' headlines do you need?

Their explanation for that wee slogan is they think that approach will dismantle the criminal gangs of people traffickers. The truth is that they don’t give a hoot about them, they just want to withdraw asylum altogether. So why not say so?

 

[BoldonLad]

A boat sank in channel today, off Calais, I think, 4 or 5 drowned, 50+rescued, 2 possibly missing.

 

[Pale Rider]

Their explanation for that wee slogan is they think that approach will dismantle the criminal gangs of people traffickers. The truth is that they don’t give a hoot about them, they just want to withdraw asylum altogether. So why not say so?

I'm impressed by the amount of psychic power on here.

Lots of posters seem to know what the government really means or wants.

Either that or there are some particularly dumb conspiracy theories...

Surely not.

 

[Ian H]

I'm impressed by the amount of psychic power on here.

Lots of posters seem to know what the government really means or wants.

Either that or there are some particularly dumb conspiracy theories...

Surely not.

Why are they lying about the availability of safe routes?

 

[Deleted member 28]

I understand their position fine. Why don’t they just say so instead of lying?

Perhaps they have to appease the lefties, unlike me.

 

[Ian H]

Perhaps they have to appease the lefties, unlike me.

If they're attempting appeasement, they're being stunningly incompetent about it. Not that that's surprising.

 

[multitool]

How do you feel about Ukranians coming here, Shep?

Should we send them back too?

Or is it that their skin colour is the crucial difference that makes them acceptable?

 

[Deleted member 28]

How do you feel about Ukranians coming here, Shep?

Should we send them back too?

Or is it that their skin colour is the crucial difference that makes them acceptable?

There's no need for any to come here, there's enough 'safe' countries between here and Ukraine.

 

[multitool]

There's no need for any to come here, there's enough 'safe' countries between here and Ukraine.

But what if France and Germany decide that Poland is safe for Ukrainians.

Why should UK exempt itself from its responsibilities for offering asylum. If we can pretend it doesn't apply to us then so can everyone.

 

[BoldonLad]

No, the rate of applications is not a bigger driver for the backlog than the rate of processing those claims.

The system is creaking it’s because it’s being mismanaged.

There was an increase in the number of caseworkers from 2011/12 to 2021/22 but, bizarrely, decision making rates decreased in that period.

In December 2022, there were 1,237 caseworkers who made an average of 4 asylum decisions per month each, compared to 380 caseworkers with a productivity rate of 13.7 decisions in 2011/12.

An inspection of asylum case work in 2021 by the Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration (ICIBI) gives a fairly clear idea of how the system has come to be creaking;

• demoralised and inadequately trained staff,
• high turnover of staff because of pressure to meet targets,
• the removal in 2019 of the official service standard, which was to decide 98% of straightforward cases within six months.

The government knows there are better ways to handle this but none of those gives them the opportunity to exploit manufactured fear and division.

Interesting.... I would have thought the Minister responsible should be investigating why this is so.

 

[C R]

Interesting.... I would have thought the Minister responsible should be investigating why this is so.

The only thing that the home secretary is interested in is how to appeal to those who deep down will never accept her as proper British, and that in itself is a tragedy.

 

[BoldonLad]

The only thing that the home secretary is interested in is how to appeal to those who deep down will never accept her as proper British, and that in itself is a tragedy.

You may be correct, but, we have had 4 or 5 Home Secretaries in the period in question, three with brown faces. Have they all had the same insecurity? Did none of them think to question why processing rates were falling?

Any ideas on why they are falling?

Will Labour be able to get processing rates up again? (If we don’t know why they are falling, I struggle to how we can be confident of reversing the trend).