The UK’s broken asylum system

[Pale Rider]

All you Brexit cünts (yes, that's you @Shep @Pale Rider plus assorted random daffodils) probably need to have a read of this:

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commen...roach-to-asylum-nothing-works/5117091.article

The logical endpoint of all your incoherent ideological slogan-driven quarter-brained moronic bullshit

You lost - get over it.

 

[cookiemonster]

You lost - get over it.

We all lost. There are no winners from Brexit unless you're mad or a disaster capitalist.

 

[multitool]

You lost - get over it.

You can't get over a continuously unfolding disaster by sticking your head in the sand or continuing to look for scapegoats.

The good news is that the voices of people like you are receding into the background. We've not hit rock-bottom politically, that will happen over the next 12 months, but the opportunity for some sort of renewal and the possibility of meaningful politics is coming into view.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

yes, that's you @Shep

I see his accounts, here and over on CC main, have been deleted.🤣

 

[mudsticks]

I see his accounts, here and over on CC main, have been deleted.🤣

You've bullied him off haven't you?

With with all your meanie, leftie brexshitty maunderings.. 🙄

Poor little Sheplet...😕

 

[glasgowcyclist]

You've bullied him off haven't you?

With with all your meanie, leftie brexshitty maunderings.. 🙄

Poor little Sheplet...😕

I expect any minute now someone will say he went because he was ‘persecuted’.

 

[mudsticks]

I expect any minute now someone will say he went because he was ‘persecuted’.

Quite possibly..

But the more likely and rather dull reason is that he was just too fowl 🐓 mouthed for the other place, one time too many.

And if you're off of there, then you're off of here too 🤔

 

[C R]

You can't get over a continuously unfolding disaster by sticking your head in the sand or continuing to look for scapegoats.

The good news is that the voices of people like you are receding into the background. We've not hit rock-bottom politically, that will happen over the next 12 months, but the opportunity for some sort of renewal and the possibility of meaningful politics is coming into view.

I admire your optimism.

 

[theclaud]

I admire your optimism.

Multz is actually Marina Purkiss AICMFP.


View: https://twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/status/1697263785147499002?t=cwAHKtAhQT4wTZYJo7Gt4w&s=19

 

[Pale Rider]

I'm guessing Algeria doesn't have a big problem with boat people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66678886

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

We all lost. There are no winners from Brexit unless you're mad or a disaster capitalist.

Doesn't matter

It is a bit like leaving home Wales to travel to a small town in Norfolk and finding yourself in Dorset
There is no point in working out where you went wrong and wailing about it - although that may be useful later
The main point is to start from where we are and work with what we have got and find the best way forward

Brexit is done - for good or bad

so we need to find a way to work with what we have
Blaming Brexit people or Leave people is pointless - just look forward and work out the best way

at the end of the day we ain;t going to rejoin in the foreseeable future

as someone once said - don;t look back - you're not going that way

 

[All uphill]

Doesn't matter

It is a bit like leaving home Wales to travel to a small town in Norfolk and finding yourself in Dorset
There is no point in working out where you went wrong and wailing about it - although that may be useful later
The main point is to start from where we are and work with what we have got and find the best way forward

Brexit is done - for good or bad

so we need to find a way to work with what we have
Blaming Brexit people or Leave people is pointless - just look forward and work out the best way

at the end of the day we ain;t going to rejoin in the foreseeable future

as someone once said - don;t look back - you're not going that way

I mostly agree.

I would find it easier to accept and move on if there was a recognition that we, as a nation, made a choice which has hurt us economically, politically and in our quality of life. That would give me some comfort that we have no plans to go further down that path.

 

[BoldonLad]

Doesn't matter

It is a bit like leaving home Wales to travel to a small town in Norfolk and finding yourself in Dorset
There is no point in working out where you went wrong and wailing about it - although that may be useful later
The main point is to start from where we are and work with what we have got and find the best way forward

Brexit is done - for good or bad

so we need to find a way to work with what we have
Blaming Brexit people or Leave people is pointless - just look forward and work out the best way

at the end of the day we ain;t going to rejoin in the foreseeable future

as someone once said - don;t look back - you're not going that way

My sentiments exactly. Hope you are wrong about the rejoining, but, I suspect you are right.

 

[multitool]

so we need to find a way to work with what we have
Blaming Brexit people or Leave people is pointless - just look forward and work out the best way

at the end of the day we ain;t going to rejoin in the foreseeable future

as someone once said - don;t look back - you're not going that way

I don't really agree with this on the same premise as, for example, Germany, Italy or Spain moving away from their fascist recent pasts without examining how and why such a descent became possible.

Brexit was the wrong diagnosis of and the wrong prescription for the nation's ills. The status quo was good for many, but not for some, but that inequality was baked into our institutions and systems in 2016 and remains so. Blaming it on membership of the EU was a misdiagnosis, and it needs examining. Equally, the vexed topic of migration needs open and informed discussion rather than leaving it to be the preserve of charlatan opportunists like Farage.

Idiots may gain relief from terse slogans like "we won/ you lost, get over it", but that relief is both imaginary and ephemeral.

It's very easy to blame social and economic decline on outsiders, but the truth is life in the EU offered economic stability. The real problems lie within the UK's own structures.

 

[mudsticks]

Doesn't matter

It is a bit like leaving home Wales to travel to a small town in Norfolk and finding yourself in Dorset
There is no point in working out where you went wrong and wailing about it - although that may be useful later
The main point is to start from where we are and work with what we have got and find the best way forward

Brexit is done - for good or bad

so we need to find a way to work with what we have
Blaming Brexit people or Leave people is pointless - just look forward and work out the best way

at the end of the day we ain;t going to rejoin in the foreseeable future

as someone once said - don;t look back - you're not going that way

Hmmn.

I find that if you don't analyse mistakes made, work out how they came to be made, and with that intelligence put in place measures to prevent them happening again, then you are forever condemned to revisit the same blunders.

Of course people who were in favour of brexit don't like to be reminded of the shite show that they voted for, but maybe they could just grow up, think a bit harder about, and take some responsibility for their actions in future.?

Meanwhile we all have to start from where we are (to borrow a phrase from my current hosts)

And some of us are trying to make the best of a very bad mess that we didn't even choose for ourselves.

Some acknowledgement of these realities from those who chose them, would give confidence to those of us trying to make the best of a bad job.

The fear that some of our people would still be just as happy to veer off shitewards again, despite the obvious disadvantages of doing that, wouldn't encourage any extra efforts to get ourselves out of this mess.