Twitter under Musk....

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AndyRM

Elder Goth
I know selective quoting is frowned upon on the lighter side of CC, but here as far as I know (even though some swear words are modified, some aren't but so fark:

"From you:

"then you don't understand the point i'm trying to make"

What point are you trying to make? Because I can't see one.
 
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Fab Foodie

Fab Foodie

Guru
In other news, Musky-babes wants his buddy Trumpers to be allowed out to play with his twitter....
 

AuroraSaab

Legendary Member
He's a feee speech absolutist so not surprising really that Musk thinks Trump should be allowed on Twitter if the likes of the Taliban are. I thought Trump had declared he wasn't interested though.
 

AuroraSaab

Legendary Member
He might well lie, but Twitter allows many people to lie without permanently banning them. You don't find it at all hypocritical that they continue to allow the Taliban and Putin to promote their ideology?
 

icowden

Legendary Member
Trump lies....

True, and he was removed from Twitter from a reason. That said, I can see Musk's point of view. We know that Trump is a deranged narcissist. However at the moment he is running rallies, drumming up support again in the dark and quiet. He's not really being reported on, he isn't public any more. In some ways that could be as dangerous as letting him broadcast so that his lies can be challenged, where he can be openly mocked and satirised and where everyone can keep an eye on his insanity until he gets arrested*.

*They are coming for him over tax evasion and fraud - it'll just take a while
 
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Fab Foodie

Fab Foodie

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He might well lie, but Twitter allows many people to lie without permanently banning them. You don't find it at all hypocritical that they continue to allow the Taliban and Putin to promote their ideology?

Of course it's hypocritical in its purest sense.
I know little about twitter's policy as I don't use, I don't know what the limits or boundaries on what can/can't be written may be (if there are any). For example, Putin and Taliban promoting an ideology maybe fine (however distasteful we might find it), but incitement to violence (Trump), promotion of child pornography and myriad other (so called taboo) subjects might be beyond the pale.
It's why the whole 'freedom of speech' issue on global platforms is both interesting and a minefield, by whose morality do we make judgements....
 
I know selective quoting is frowned upon on the lighter side of CC, but here as far as I know (even though some swear words are modified, some aren't but so fark:

"From you:

"then you don't understand the point i'm trying to make"

What point are you trying to make? Because I can't see one.
Selective quote all you like, just make sure you keep the quote intact or tag the person your selectively quoting otherwise the person you quote doesn't always see it.

True, and he was removed from Twitter from a reason. That said, I can see Musk's point of view. We know that Trump is a deranged narcissist. However at the moment he is running rallies, drumming up support again in the dark and quiet. He's not really being reported on, he isn't public any more. In some ways that could be as dangerous as letting him broadcast so that his lies can be challenged, where he can be openly mocked and satirised and where everyone can keep an eye on his insanity until he gets arrested*.

*They are coming for him over tax evasion and fraud - it'll just take a while
Trump was removed from Twitter because it suited them, just as it suited Apple to not provide help decrypting the Iphone of an death terrorist only for it to suit them now to automatically scan files off all Iphone users in search of illegal things.
First make a strong statement then slowly moving the goalpost, and call all who oppose ''right-wing'', consipiracy, etc. etc. which leads to the meaning of ''the right or far or even extreme right'' diminishing and the same for the left, with the real extremes fractions the only winners.

Trump would have never come so far if they would have just fought him with arguments, but they tried to put him away as a lunatic* that you shouldn't take serious instead, with predictable results(leunatic can be replaced with the buzzword of the day, back in the day it was Facist, populist etc. etc. )
 

stowie

Active Member
Twitter is an interesting place sometimes.

For example, today it hosted a new quiz called "Guess what Gove puts on his Cornflakes".

 

AuroraSaab

Legendary Member
Of course it's hypocritical in its purest sense.
I know little about twitter's policy as I don't use, I don't know what the limits or boundaries on what can/can't be written may be (if there are any). For example, Putin and Taliban promoting an ideology maybe fine (however distasteful we might find it), but incitement to violence (Trump), promotion of child pornography and myriad other (so called taboo) subjects might be beyond the pale.
It's why the whole 'freedom of speech' issue on global platforms is both interesting and a minefield, by whose morality do we make judgements....

There's loads of porn on Twitter. They don't even ban people for having MAP in their profile and putting the age they like - MAP stands for Minor Attracted Person, ie paedophile. There's also the whole shadow banning thing where Twitter deboosts the likes and replies of accounts they don't approve of, or make it difficult to search for those accounts.

I could understand the concern about Musk more if Twitter wasn't already a bit of a dumpster fire of content manipulation and hypocrisy.
 
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Fab Foodie

Fab Foodie

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There's loads of porn on Twitter. They don't even ban people for having MAP in their profile and putting the age they like - MAP stands for Minor Attracted Person, ie paedophile. There's also the whole shadow banning thing where Twitter deboosts the likes and replies of accounts they don't approve of, or make it difficult to search for those accounts.

I could understand the concern about Musk more if Twitter wasn't already a bit of a dumpster fire of content manipulation and hypocrisy.

Blimey :ohmy:
I may have to open an account.....
 

AuroraSaab

Legendary Member
It's not as bad as the sub Reddit forums. That place really is the home of your misogynistic porn addled incel. I don't think us older folk realise how awash with nasty porn the Internet is, and how it's easily accessible to kids.

Edit: I should add that it's not just got sub forums dedicated to dehumanising women. There's loads of racist stuff as well. Bizarrely, Reddit goes from forums about cute pets or car advice, to sub forums dedicated to abusing Asians or hating women, to hard core right wing and incel stuff. This is how these things get normalised. It's grooming kids in the same way kids are groomed by jihadists.
 
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