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albion

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Was that before or after he had sex with Putin?
 

Bazzer

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And another law suit to disqualify Trump, this time from Colorado's ballot.
Because of States having deadlines to meet for their own legal and practical purposes, it looks like the Supreme Court are going to have to get involved sooner rather than later.- Unless of course the right wing justices are happy to see chaos and those in individual States who are responsible for names on ballots, exposed to potential law suits.
 

Milzy

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Obama was the drone strike king. Too many civilians and many children were killed because of his drones. He bailed the banks out with no punishment.
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icowden

Legendary Member
Obama was the drone strike king. Too many civilians and many children were killed because of his drones.
If it were not for Obama you wouldn't know that there *were* drone strikes. He acknowledged the programme but couldn't reform it because congress was controlled by Republicans (they are big fans of blowing up brown/black people). He also authorised publishing the information even though it made him look bad. Can you imagine Trump doing that? We know he authorised 542 drone strikes which killed 3979 people, of which 324 were civilians. What we don't know is how many lives were saved by those strikes being carried out.

He bailed the banks out with no punishment.
Why would he be punished for taking action to save the US economy and prevent a huge recession which would have caused untold hardship for the American people - especially the poorest members of a society which doesn't care for them anyway? Had he not injected loans into the banking industry countless businesses would have closed because capital and credit lines would have dried up. He also saved thousands of jobs in the auto industry. The economy improved hugely under Obama.

Moron conspiracy theorists see that as a Trump thing because what Obama did came to fruition after he finished. Politics is slow. If you change something in 2023, don't expect to see most of the results until 2027 or 2028. Hence Biden has inherited a shoot show from the orange turnip.
 

Milzy

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If it were not for Obama you wouldn't know that there *were* drone strikes. He acknowledged the programme but couldn't reform it because congress was controlled by Republicans (they are big fans of blowing up brown/black people). He also authorised publishing the information even though it made him look bad. Can you imagine Trump doing that? We know he authorised 542 drone strikes which killed 3979 people, of which 324 were civilians. What we don't know is how many lives were saved by those strikes being carried out.


Why would he be punished for taking action to save the US economy and prevent a huge recession which would have caused untold hardship for the American people - especially the poorest members of a society which doesn't care for them anyway? Had he not injected loans into the banking industry countless businesses would have closed because capital and credit lines would have dried up. He also saved thousands of jobs in the auto industry. The economy improved hugely under Obama.

Moron conspiracy theorists see that as a Trump thing because what Obama did came to fruition after he finished. Politics is slow. If you change something in 2023, don't expect to see most of the results until 2027 or 2028. Hence Biden has inherited a shoot show from the orange turnip.

This totally makes sense. Slight misinformation on Russell Brands podcast recently then. Albeit it’s good to let people speak freely.
 
If it were not for Obama you wouldn't know that there *were* drone strikes. He acknowledged the programme but couldn't reform it because congress was controlled by Republicans (they are big fans of blowing up brown/black people). He also authorised publishing the information even though it made him look bad. Can you imagine Trump doing that? We know he authorised 542 drone strikes which killed 3979 people, of which 324 were civilians. What we don't know is how many lives were saved by those strikes being carried out.
Well we did see terror attacks in Paris, here in the uk and Germany in about that same period and it are those same kind of terrorist that where targeted.
on nearly 4000 terrorist and suchlike 324 civilians isn't bad, note that wifes etc. are also counted as civilians. That last point is indeed very often overlooked, i have no doubt many lives where saved if we didn't stop Isis, Al-quada etc. etc.
Why would he be punished for taking action to save the US economy and prevent a huge recession which would have caused untold hardship for the American people - especially the poorest members of a society which doesn't care for them anyway? Had he not injected loans into the banking industry countless businesses would have closed because capital and credit lines would have dried up. He also saved thousands of jobs in the auto industry. The economy improved hugely under Obama.
He would then be punished for a system he hasn't created and has not have any control off anyway. if someone was going to be punished for this it needs to be the guys who made all the sub-prime mortages sub-prime loans etc. etc. but that would in evitable put the us in bigger problems, so they got away with it like always, if you scam 4 people you're called a conman and are arrested, if you scam billions of people and the government you're called a financial institution.

In that respect it nice to see how normal people got that revenge with the gamestop share, which only ended after the financials showed their true colors and played unfair. But i did cost enough very big players a headache

Moron conspiracy theorists see that as a Trump thing because what Obama did came to fruition after he finished. Politics is slow. If you change something in 2023, don't expect to see most of the results until 2027 or 2028. Hence Biden has inherited a shoot show from the orange turnip.
Agreed, alltough if we are fair it has to be said for conspiracy theorist/ for right for left etc. from both side of the spectrum. (Trump during his (luckily)short time at the office has been blamed for more then enough remainders of the democrats decisions.
What did Russell say? Did he use big words to make himself seem intelligent?
Whether you politically agree with Russel Brand or not i often find his interviews quite good.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
A decade ago Brand was interesting, energetic and engaging. He's gone down the road of ridiculous conspiracy theories, which is dangerous because he still has a massive audience and people believe the shite he spouts.
 

Milzy

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A decade ago Brand was interesting, energetic and engaging. He's gone down the road of ridiculous conspiracy theories, which is dangerous because he still has a massive audience and people believe the shite he spouts.

He’s turned down Hollywood to do his anti establishment podcast though. Content on his few million quid instead of easily getting many more millions handed on a plate to him.
Kudos for anyone standing up for what they believe in. Also he’s a truth seeker so not everything is utter balls.
 
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AndyRM

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He’s turned down Hollywood to do his anti establishment podcast though. Content on his few million quid instead of easily getting many more millions handed on a plate to him.
Kudos for anyone standing up for what they believe in. Also he’s a truth seeker so not everything is utter balls.

Turned down Hollywood my arse. He voiced a character in a Minions movie last year FFS. He's about as establishment as they come these days, and always has been really considering he became famous from MTV and Big Brother (which both ironically enough started out as being anti establishment/subversive and rapidly lost their way).

But sure, he's a "truth seeker", let's go with that. What he actually believes in is anyone's guess.
 

Milzy

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Turned down Hollywood my arse. He voiced a character in a Minions movie last year FFS. He's about as establishment as they come these days, and always has been really considering he became famous from MTV and Big Brother (which both ironically enough started out as being anti establishment/subversive and rapidly lost their way).

But sure, he's a "truth seeker", let's go with that. What he actually believes in is anyone's guess.

You’re having a laugh he stars in 10 big films. Use google and be enlightened. Maybe you can become an awakening wonder while you’re at it.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
He’s turned down Hollywood to do his anti establishment podcast though. Content on his few million quid instead of easily getting many more millions handed on a plate to him.
Kudos for anyone standing up for what they believe in. Also he’s a truth seeker so not everything is utter balls.

What big Hollywood offers has he turned down to do this podcast?

I believe Hollywood gave up on him before he gave up on Hollywood.

Just shouting you are a truthseeker, while making money out of it, does not make you a truthseeker.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
You’re having a laugh he stars in 10 big films. Use google and be enlightened. Maybe you can become an awakening wonder while you’re at it.

I've no idea what you're getting at here. 10 big films? Become an awakening wonder?
 
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