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[icowden]

German elections are over right-wing parties claiming first two biggest winners.
Looks like the CDU will have control, a continuation party, achieving probably very little.
Will there be another snap election in a short while

Notably however, the AFD did worse than expected and the majority CDU-CSD Conservative party are more interested in doing a deal with the third placed SPD party than AFD. Looks like the Germans still don't want to work with Nazis.

 

[CXRAndy]

Notably however, the AFD did worse than expected and the majority CDU-CSD Conservative party are more interested in doing a deal with the third placed SPD party than AFD. Looks like the Germans still don't want to work with Nazis.

Like I said continuation coalition, the same old, same old.

I very much doubt the problems of Germany will improve until the country grasps the prickly issue of mass immigration

AfD polling 20.8% CDU 28.5%. Remarkable to jump 2nd place in short political time frame.

Let the Germans experience this new coalition, see how they feel in 12 months



Nazi is the fashionable Moniker for right wing.

Using Nazi, is as silly calling left wing 'Communists'

 

[icowden]

AfD polling 20.8% CDU 28.5%. Remarkable to jump 2nd place in short political time frame.

Not really. It's almost an exact mirror of our political party breakdown. The gammons and loons have backed a party that's barely credible and whose policies revolve around sending people back where they came from, thus reducing the support for the conservative party.

The only difference is that they still have enough support for a majority, as Germany doesn't really have an equivalent of labour and lib dem as far as I can see.

Nazi is the fashionable Moniker for right wing.

Nope - it's the fasionable Moniker for neo-Nazis. See the salute brigade for details...

Using Nazi, is as silly calling left wing 'Communists'

Not really given that they are aping Hitler's policies.

 

[CXRAndy]

Not really given that they are aping Hitler's policies

Really, I hadn't heard of extermination camps, taking over other countries around them.

Just as silly as calling labour Pol Pot followers

 

[C R]

Really, I hadn't heard of extermination camps, taking over other countries around them.

You really aren't paying attention.

 

[icowden]

Really, I hadn't heard of extermination camps, taking over other countries around them.

Hitler didn't start with extermination camps. He started in1933 with creating internment camps to hold political dissenters (mostly communist and socialist party members). They didn't behave so punishments were devised. In the meantime, the camps were increased to also hold Jews (especially after Kristallnacht), Freemasons and Criminals (the jails were full of political prisoners as well). They didn't start creating the extermination camps until 1939.

That nice Mr Trump is busy creating camps to hold 100,000 people as they await deportation (being sent back to where they came from). That nice Mr Putin has similar camps, although I believe his are for re-education and imprisonment of political dissenters (well those who haven't fallen out of windows). Mr Jinping and Mr Un also have these camps.

Organisations like the AFD and Reform would also see camps built to house people who "need to go back to where they came from".

Just as silly as calling labour Pol Pot followers

Not really. You may not have noticed, but the Labour party is a middle ground workers party, not the communist party of Great Britain.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Hitler didn't start with extermination camps. He started in1933 with creating internment camps to hold political dissenters (mostly communist and socialist party members). They didn't behave so punishments were devised. In the meantime, the camps were increased to also hold Jews (especially after Kristallnacht), Freemasons and Criminals (the jails were full of political prisoners as well). They didn't start creating the extermination camps until 1939.

But the ideology and social acceptance of hatred towards jews for being jews was there already, it was just Hitler who exploited it, now whom invented it.
That's different now as there is no social acceptance for hatred against migrants.

That nice Mr Trump is busy creating camps to hold 100,000 people as they await deportation (being sent back to where they came from). That nice Mr Putin has similar camps, although I believe his are for re-education and imprisonment of political dissenters (well those who haven't fallen out of windows). Mr Jinping and Mr Un also have these camps.

It was actually nice mister Obama who started those camps, yes that's what the NBC didn't tell you when they filmed Trump at those camps but they where Obama's heritage children in cages.

Organisations like the AFD and Reform would also see camps built to house people who "need to go back to where they came from".


Not really. You may not have noticed, but the Labour party is a middle ground workers party, not the communist party of Great Britain.

If europe after ''wir schaffen das'' actually had a solid system in place, so you root out criminals and put those who commit criminal acts home again too parties like AFD probably didn't have such a stellar grow as they seem to have now.
But europe didn't and that's why where i the current mess.

Not really. It's almost an exact mirror of our political party breakdown. The gammons and loons have backed a party that's barely credible and whose policies revolve around sending people back where they came from, thus reducing the support for the conservative party.

Did you ever wonder why those who voted an lets say ''credible'' party earlier now voted for something like ukip, reclaim, the brexit party uh however farage club is nowadays called. ?
Do you think those poeple are all racist throwing darts on a dartboard with a person with a black face on them?
or could it be a bit more nuanced?

Not really given that they are aping Hitler's policies.

You assume they also have the same goals?

 

[CXRAndy]

Hitler didn't start with extermination camps. He started in1933 with creating internment camps to hold political dissenters (mostly communist and socialist party members). They didn't behave so punishments were devised. In the meantime, the camps were increased to also hold Jews (especially after Kristallnacht), Freemasons and Criminals (the jails were full of political prisoners as well). They didn't start creating the extermination camps until 1939.

That nice Mr Trump is busy creating camps to hold 100,000 people as they await deportation (being sent back to where they came from). That nice Mr Putin has similar camps, although I believe his are for re-education and imprisonment of political dissenters (well those who haven't fallen out of windows). Mr Jinping and Mr Un also have these camps.

Organisations like the AFD and Reform would also see camps built to house people who "need to go back to where they came from".


Not really. You may not have noticed, but the Labour party is a middle ground workers party, not the communist party of Great Britain.

No it's just the same. Extremists regimes names are bandied around for far less extreme political parties.

It really means nothing when the reality of past horrors were very real. The left need to get a sense of proportion 😜

 

[CXRAndy]

Same old as usual from CDU


View: https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1893930412898140517?t=dcWWRMmFsiNDsnZ6k-S0iw&s=19

 

[monkers]

Like I said continuation coalition, the same old, same old.

I very much doubt the problems of Germany will improve until the country grasps the prickly issue of mass immigration

AfD polling 20.8% CDU 28.5%. Remarkable to jump 2nd place in short political time frame.

Let the Germans experience this new coalition, see how they feel in 12 months



Nazi is the fashionable Moniker for right wing.

Using Nazi, is as silly calling left wing 'Communists'

No. John Major was right wing. By comparison Farage is a fascist, and that what the better educated people are aware of, while thick racist twats admire him.

 

[presta]

Well, isn't this interesting. It's almost as if there was some sort of border between left & right, east & west:

https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-and-voter-demographics-explained-in-charts/a-71724186

 

[matticus]

Is Russian on that map? ??

 

[Fab Foodie]

Is Russian on that map? ??

Not yet, but am sure they have plans....

 

[CXRAndy]

Well, isn't this interesting. It's almost as if there was some sort of border between left & right, east & west:

View attachment 7395

https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-and-voter-demographics-explained-in-charts/a-71724186

It will because the east Germany has truly experienced communist oppression and don't want socialism in any form.

 

[CXRAndy]

No. John Major was right wing. By comparison Farage is a fascist, and that what the better educated people are aware of, while thick racist twats admire him.

All depends on your reference point

If you start with a blurry image of a male, some might say that's a woman without doubt 🤔