War with Russia

[Pross]

Despite all these daily good news posts Russia are still managing to hit Kyiv on a regular basis and I haven't heard anything suggesting the frontline position is in anything other than stalemate. It all feels like believing an element of propoganda.

 

[briantrumpet]

Despite all these daily good news posts Russia are still managing to hit Kyiv on a regular basis and I haven't heard anything suggesting the frontline position is in anything other than stalemate. It all feels like believing an element of propoganda.

I admire @Pinno718's optimism, but I remain more of an

as far as Ukraine goes.

 

[Pinno718]

Despite all these daily good news posts Russia are still managing to hit Kyiv on a regular basis and I haven't heard anything suggesting the frontline position is in anything other than stalemate. It all feels like believing an element of propoganda.

So long as the Ukranians keep wrecking military equipment and mangling infrastructure (especially oil processing facilities which is Russia's life blood), there will be a point where the war becomes unsustainable for Russia, I will remain optimistic.

..and it's propaganda BTW.

 

[briantrumpet]

..and it's propaganda BTW.

Careful with the pedantry, Pinno - you make yourself fair game...

 

[Ian H]

If and when the war with Russia ends, Ukraine isn't going to magically transform itself into a stable democracy. Corruption is endemic at the moment. Also, some of the semi-autonomous militias fighting the Russians are actual Nazis. Come peacetime they are going to be well-armed and at a loose end.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Donald's peace efforts are going well clearly. Didn't he give Putin another 50 days yesterday?

 

[Pblakeney]

Donald's peace efforts are going well clearly. Didn't he give Putin another 50 days yesterday?

TACO.
All strong leaders have learned to simply ignore him.

 

[Bazzer]

Despite all these daily good news posts Russia are still managing to hit Kyiv on a regular basis and I haven't heard anything suggesting the frontline position is in anything other than stalemate. It all feels like believing an element of propoganda.

The vast majority of land captured in Ukraine was in the first couple of years of the war. This was before Ukraine got properly organised in dealing with an attacker with vastly superior manpower, money and military equipment.
I liken the situation to a couple of mismatched fighters. Ukraine knows it doesn't have the size to deliver a right hook to it's towering opponent, but keep kicking it's legs and the opponent's jaw might come within reach.

 

[Pinno718]

Arrests of high-ranking generals of the Ministry of Defense continue in Russia. On August 26, the arrest of Major General Konstantin Kuvshinov, the former head of the 9th Medical and Diagnostic Center (MDC) of the Russian Defense Ministry, became known. After the resignation of Sergey Shoigu as head of the Defense Ministry, this is the ninth military leader to be accused of multimillion-dollar embezzlement and bribes.

https://charter97.org/en/news/2025/8/27/653564

 

[Pross]

The vast majority of land captured in Ukraine was in the first couple of years of the war. This was before Ukraine got properly organised in dealing with an attacker with vastly superior manpower, money and military equipment.
I liken the situation to a couple of mismatched fighters. Ukraine knows it doesn't have the size to deliver a right hook to it's towering opponent, but keep kicking it's legs and the opponent's jaw might come within reach.

Sure but they aren’t exactly winning much back. There were some successful counter-offensives / strategic Russian withdrawals a couple of years ago but it’s very much stalemate and a war of attrition now. Who can hold out longest with the attrition both in human and financial terms? I suspect it is harder for a democratic country to keep feeding troops into the meat grinder than a dictatorship although that will be tempered to an extent by the democratic country being the one protecting its borders.

 

[Pross]

So long as the Ukranians keep wrecking military equipment and mangling infrastructure (especially oil processing facilities which is Russia's life blood), there will be a point where the war becomes unsustainable for Russia, I will remain optimistic.

..and it's propaganda BTW.

Ukraine will also be having infrastructure and assets destroyed so it comes down to who runs out first. I hope you’re right but I feel there’s a risk Ukraine may ultimately have to cede some territory.

You may want to review many of your own posts before picking up on other people’s spelling.

 

[Pinno718]

You may want to review many of your own posts before picking up on other people’s spelling.

I wasn't being serious.

 

[Pinno718]

Ukraine will also be having infrastructure and assets destroyed so it comes down to who runs out first. I hope you’re right but I feel there’s a risk Ukraine may ultimately have to cede some territory.

You may want to review many of your own posts before picking up on other people’s spelling.

Anyway, Ukraine has lost an estimated 80,000 personnel whilst Russia, over 1m. The men who go into the 'meat grinder' are Russian, not Ukrainian - it's their method of fighting. The Ukrainians call it the meat grinder because the Russian troops go in to die.
Whilst this draws parallels with WW1 (over the top boys?), I think it's a simplistic view. After all, the naval blockade did more to end WW1 than anything that happened on the Western front.
I think the Ukrainians know that the front line is not where this war will conclude and this is why they are putting a lot of their resources into hitting the arteries and infrastructure in Russia. Europe has long term pledges. Belgium will supply 30 fighter jets (though that process is a bit slow for my liking) and the Germans are supplying long range missiles. such is collective will to repel Putin.
Putin well may run out of men (see my previous post). Mercenaries. and people's entirely unconnected with Russia (N Koreans) do not posses the same will.
The current estimations is that Russia has lost 17% of it's oil and gas refining capacity and is buying fuel from Belarus. Yep, buying petrol and diesel from Belarus.
These complex infrastructures cannot be rebuilt overnight and are the financial life blood of Russia.
Putin is seizing assets and firing generals left right and centre as he has to try and keep control and fund the war. It's Russia that cannot sustain this. I think the recent attacks on Ukraine and the scale of the attacks seem almost like last gasp desperate means by Putin to try and swing this war.

More boom please Ukraine and then lets watch Russia implode. It will have significant effect on the world order and China looses an ally. Some balance has to be restored, especially as there is a twat in the Whitehouse ceding international ground rapidly.
Putin is too arrogant to admit failures. There is deep corruption in the Kremlin and like Trump, I don't think Putin is getting fed the right information as I don't think he's surrounded by people who want to tell Putin to smell the coffee. They are too afraid and others are cashing in on the status quo.