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Pinno718

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Well, now Europe knows how Africa and South America were feeling all this time, maybe even how the Palestinians feel.

Yeah. The coalition of the willing provides a consistent and combined stability that Trump doesn't.

There must be war hungry generals thinking that a NATO offensive would flatten Russia given how weak it's air defences are when mere drones are f*cking up everything that has 'oil', 'radar', 'power', 'rail' or 'munitions dump' written on it.
I ain't no woolly Liberal.
 
No, I'm Pinno...

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Pinno718

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SW - Steve Witkoff. Fool, puppet.

Bloomberg news got the leaked phone call between him and Yuri Ushakov (because like Kegbreath, he used an unsecured line)

Here's the transcript.

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Pinno718

Veteran
Euromaidan press:

Ukraine to turn tables in “first symmetric winter” as its drones overwhelm Russian air defenses​

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/11...as-its-drones-overwhelm-russian-air-defenses/

Kyiv Post:

‘Madyar’s Birds’ Hit Key Russian Missile-Electronics Plant 1,000 km Inside Russia​


Ukraine’s General Staff has confirmed that its long-range drones struck the VNIIRE-Progress plant in Cheboksary overnight on Nov. 26, hitting one of Russia’s key producers of navigation systems and components for cruise and ballistic missiles.

The strike triggered a fire at the facility, and damage assessments are ongoing.
Ukrainian drones hits army barracks in Grozny.
Ramzan Kadyrov (49) is a Russian politician who is head of the Chechen Republic is terminally il, so he'll have to be replaced.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/64998

The Moscow Times

More Than Half of Russia's Regions Are Running Budget Deficits, Study Says


The combined deficit is $2bn.

Coal Mines in Occupied Luhansk Face Risk of Closure Without $505M Injection


Russian Corporate Losses Surge in 2025 as More Firms Slip Into the Red


Reuters:

Exclusive: Russia weighs how to prop up Russian Railways which is $51 billion in debt, sources say​

https://www.reuters.com/sustainabil...-which-is-51-billion-debt-sources-2025-11-25/

Overnight drones strikes kill 6 in Kyiv.
 

Pinno718

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Witkoff has been dealing with the Russians since the early 90's and brought in a lot of Russian money into New York which assisted Real estate speculators like Trump.

Witkoff (on the Tucker Carlson show)

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Ian H

Squire
Zelensky’s top aide and key peace negotiator resigns after anti-corruption raid of his home
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/28/world/andriy-yermak-ukraine-corruption-raid-intl
 
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Therein lies the problem. You subscribe to Mencken's theories of democracy.

Indeed. Wot? You like the sausages? If not, whose fault is it?

I'm guessing that international law is a joke. Might well have a point there.

Not exactly, but they only apply to weaklings, like the Ivory Coast, Liberia, e.g., and only occasionally.

Major power politics is anarchic because a greater, enforcement power doesn't exist. Folks like Pinno718 are clearly having huge difficulties understanding this simple fact despite evidently literally living in this "Current Affairs and Politics" forum. Quite extraordinary! Hence we see an unending, boring stream of magical thinking from him here, like:

A ceasefire but on what terms that would be a) beneficial to Ukraine b) prevent future aggression from Russia?
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Hmm, so Putin invades Ukraine not once, but twice within a decade, acting as the agressor, and the rest of Europe (and other western states) should stand by and do diddly squat?
Why should Ukraine not be allowed to look west for its future rather than east? Who is Putin to determine how Ukraine should view its future.

No shoot! Indeed the West did not stand by. But how has it turned out? Y'all happy?

Hasn't Ukraine still been losing? And how has Europe/UK fared? What for? So Ukraine could have a crack at joining Rutte's Daddy's military coalition, but failed?

Looks like we have undercovered a Putin mole

Since Putin is not the one wanting a ceasefire, and since NATO is unlikely to survive now Daddy wants to quit, AND since you obviously support this Ukrainian, "look West", adventure that led to this happy day for Putin, who the fcuk in reality is a stupid Putin supporter who cheered Ukraine down this garden path?

I wish there was a nicer way to put it, but you clearly have learnt nothing from nearly 4 years of this same lesson. Somehow in your fantasy world the invaded must prevail? While the US haven't tolerated a hostile neighbour in their backyard for two centuries, Putin somehow should? Which Western country is willing to go all in to test Russian resolve in order to help Ukraine? Where are their boots on the ground now Ukrainian men are decimated?

You have no idea how funny y'all look banging your heads against a brick wall cursing it because it isn't where you think it should be, apparently. Since nearly all European leaders are behaving likewise, the chance of a ceasefire is close to zero - Europe will end up holding the baby without Daddy. Good job!

What is actually the root of all this? Hubris, exceptionalism, and of course pig-headedness.
 

Ian H

Squire
Zelensky’s top aide and key peace negotiator resigns after anti-corruption raid of his home
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/28/world/andriy-yermak-ukraine-corruption-raid-intl

From that article -
Ukraine has long been seen as one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, a major obstacle to its aspirations to join the European Union.
The EU has made it clear to Kyiv that it must implement strong anti-graft measures if it wants to become a member and the Biden administration urged the Ukrainian government to do more to root out corruption in 2023.
 

Pinno718

Veteran
Indeed. Wot? You like the sausages? If not, whose fault is it?



Not exactly, but they only apply to weaklings, like the Ivory Coast, Liberia, e.g., and only occasionally.

Major power politics is anarchic because a greater, enforcement power doesn't exist. Folks like Pinno718 are clearly having huge difficulties understanding this simple fact despite evidently literally living in this "Current Affairs and Politics" forum. Quite extraordinary! Hence we see an unending, boring stream of magical thinking from him here, like:


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No shoot! Indeed the West did not stand by. But how has it turned out? Y'all happy?

Hasn't Ukraine still been losing? And how has Europe/UK fared? What for? So Ukraine could have a crack at joining Rutte's Daddy's military coalition, but failed?



Since Putin is not the one wanting a ceasefire, and since NATO is unlikely to survive now Daddy wants to quit, AND since you obviously support this Ukrainian, "look West", adventure that led to this happy day for Putin, who the fcuk in reality is a stupid Putin supporter who cheered Ukraine down this garden path?

I wish there was a nicer way to put it, but you clearly have learnt nothing from nearly 4 years of this same lesson. Somehow in your fantasy world the invaded must prevail? While the US haven't tolerated a hostile neighbour in their backyard for two centuries, Putin somehow should? Which Western country is willing to go all in to test Russian resolve in order to help Ukraine? Where are their boots on the ground now Ukrainian men are decimated?

You have no idea how funny y'all look banging your heads against a brick wall cursing it because it isn't where you think it should be, apparently. Since nearly all European leaders are behaving likewise, the chance of a ceasefire is close to zero - Europe will end up holding the baby without Daddy. Good job!

What is actually the root of all this? Hubris, exceptionalism, and of course pig-headedness.

Are you okay hun?
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Major power politics is anarchic because a greater, enforcement power doesn't exist.

I admit the weakness of the greater enforcement power theory is that it depends on agreement from the likes of the US, Russia and China which is never going to happen. So, how can this be resolved?

Somehow in your fantasy world the invaded must prevail? While the US haven't tolerated a hostile neighbour in their backyard for two centuries, Putin somehow should?
Natural justice means the invaded  should prevail but, sadly and realistically, history shows that this does not always happen and that might will often win out, but the easier the invasion the more likely that it will be repeated. Who are the hostile neighbours in Putin's back yard and where are the tangible examples of that hostility in terms of invasion or attack on borders? Ukraine "looking West" is not an act of aggression but merely an aversion to the form of governmental control of the people that they see to the east of them. The overt hostility has come from Russia and its close neighbours clearly fear further hostility from a leader who still yearns for Russia's glory days and is not constrained by a system that allows genuine questioning from within.

it is clear from your posts over the years that you believe that the form of "strong" leadership and control of its people as operated by Russia and China is a model that is better than the various approaches to democratic government which at least give a semblance of a say to their populations.
 
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