Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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The conclusions on p36 seem clear enough to me. They include failures to follow up action proposed and against the Civil Service Code etc.
If it's good enough for the Ombo it's good enough for me.
WASPI Women Denied Compensation
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The conclusions on p36 seem clear enough to me. They include failures to follow up action proposed and against the Civil Service Code etc.
If it's good enough for the Ombo it's good enough for me.
matticus
Guru
In Sky News today (2024, for reference):
The chancellor campaigned for Waspi women to receive compensation when she was shadow pensions minister ...
Rachel Reeves spoke in a Westminster Hall debate in 2016 in which she said the women hit by the increase to the state pension age from 60 to 65 in the 2010s had been "done an injustice".
That was 8 years ago! Quite a lot has happened since then, in the economy, in the country's coffers - how many tory policies remained unchanged since 2016?
The chancellor campaigned for Waspi women to receive compensation when she was shadow pensions minister ...
Rachel Reeves spoke in a Westminster Hall debate in 2016 in which she said the women hit by the increase to the state pension age from 60 to 65 in the 2010s had been "done an injustice".
That was 8 years ago! Quite a lot has happened since then, in the economy, in the country's coffers - how many tory policies remained unchanged since 2016?
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke, Northants
My point exactly.
Beebo
Guru
Well, David Cameron was still PM. So just a little matter of more 4 Conservative PMs in that time.
So no much.
"Courage of your convictions"
Clearly Labour were not/are not in the business of conviction politics and have not moved on from the Punch and Judy confrontational politics that has been the British problem for many a year.
OP
OP
spen666
Well-Known Member
I amazing how so many people are bending over backwards to defend the actions of Labour, despite
1. The Parliamentary Ombudsman recommending payment of compensation
2. Several Labour MPs including Angela Raynor making speeches in opposition saying the money belonged to the WASPI women and a Labour government would pay the WASPI women.
1. The Parliamentary Ombudsman recommending payment of compensation
2. Several Labour MPs including Angela Raynor making speeches in opposition saying the money belonged to the WASPI women and a Labour government would pay the WASPI women.
icowden
Squire
Actually I'm not sure that they did. Although Keir ended up with a landslide win, a huge number of people were not voting *for* Labour, they were voting *against* the Tories. Starmer offered the only viable alternative in many areas - more than the Lib Dems could get - they also won a large number of seats on the basis that they weren't the incumbent chinless wonder.
No one in my constituency voted for Labour - but the majority voted against having another Tory Government. Remember Truss wasting 60Bn, the runaway interest rates, the massive costs to our mortgages, Boris having parties whilst we were in lockdown etc etc etc - that's what turned everyone anti-tory.
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icowden
Squire
If only Liz Truss hadn't spaffed 60Bn down the tubes.
Mr Celine
Well-Known Member
matticus
Guru
Amazing good, or
amazing bad?
And have you considered that maybe you don't understand voters?
ebikeerwidnes
Senior Member
Personally I have kept a close eye on pensions for a while now
I thought I was up to date and knew what to expect
On the plus side I expected to get my OAP when I was 67 - I was wrong it is 66
no idea why I got it wrong but anyway
On the down side - I was under the impression that once I had worked for x years then I was entitled to a full pension at 66
I am pretty sure I also got a letter saying this - or so I interpreted it at the time - the time being about 2005-2010 ish
Anyway - when everythign changed and I ended up leaving work early I checked everything out
the OAP was totally different to what I thought
Apparently you have to keep paying Nation Insurance and if you retire early - and hence stop work - then you also stop paying National Insurance
and every year that you "fail" to pay it you loose a portion of your OAP - and eveb if you have been working and paying NI for 40 years that not paying for 2 years has a significant effect
it is all a bit weird
Now I could say - hang on - this is not when I was told and no-one sent me a personalised letter saying what was going to happen
but they didn;t - I had to do it all myself
It all sounded simple whenI was growing up - and I think people think that it is
but a lot of people are going to have a shock when they actually retire
I thought I was up to date and knew what to expect
On the plus side I expected to get my OAP when I was 67 - I was wrong it is 66
no idea why I got it wrong but anyway
On the down side - I was under the impression that once I had worked for x years then I was entitled to a full pension at 66
I am pretty sure I also got a letter saying this - or so I interpreted it at the time - the time being about 2005-2010 ish
Anyway - when everythign changed and I ended up leaving work early I checked everything out
the OAP was totally different to what I thought
Apparently you have to keep paying Nation Insurance and if you retire early - and hence stop work - then you also stop paying National Insurance
and every year that you "fail" to pay it you loose a portion of your OAP - and eveb if you have been working and paying NI for 40 years that not paying for 2 years has a significant effect
it is all a bit weird
Now I could say - hang on - this is not when I was told and no-one sent me a personalised letter saying what was going to happen
but they didn;t - I had to do it all myself
It all sounded simple whenI was growing up - and I think people think that it is
but a lot of people are going to have a shock when they actually retire
It's not how many years you have worked but how many years you have paid National Insurance, to get the new state pension you have to have paid 35 years of national insurance if you have paid in less than 35 years you get less. I retired at 55 having paid 37 years of NI and having never opted out will get a full state pension according to my pension forecast, my wife on the other hand like many of our generation did not work for a lot of her working life preferring to bring up our children and only returned to work later in life, her NI contributions were made up of years she had worked and paid NI and pension credit for bringing up our children. This still left her short of the full pension so we paid the gaps in her contributions to ensure she gets a full pension.
You can check your pension forecast here. https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension you need to sign up for an account if you don't already have one.
IMO it's your responsibility to check these sort of things, it's not like the information is not there you just have to access it.
theclaud
Reading around the chip
Preferring?
icowden
Squire
Yes, quite possibly. Certainly it does seem to be that many women prefer to spend time with their children rather than paying for Nursery / Nannies etc. My wife certainly did and wouldn't have considered leaving me in charge!
