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mudsticks

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More horribly entitled @rsholery

The behaviours are nothing new, sadly.
It's just victims feel slightly more able to speak up ,.
Even though the road to 'justice' is still hard enough.

This guy is still at large, still free to do this to other victims
Grim.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...reatened-ex-partner-bbc-investigation-reveals

What is it in the mindset of these men ??


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...bour-mp-compensation-woman-sexually-assaulted

At least this one's no longer in post, but what a process the victim had to go through to get justice.

But again, who really cares.??
 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61511890
The government's independent adviser on tackling violence against women and girls has suggested her calls for street harassment to be made a crime are being blocked.

Nimco Ali, a close friend of Boris and Carrie Johnson, told the BBC's Political Thinking with Nick Robinson that her plan had endured "pushback".

She also hinted the prime minister had not fully supported it.
 
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That's fecking sick....makes you wonder what he gets up to in private !
 
Mr Celine

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I'd be checking his cupboards for fava beans or a nice chianti.
 
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Ian H said:
It's like some parallel universe.
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If only it was.

This, and the people coming up with this stuff, is the kind of thing that many, or even most women have to put up with on a daily basis.


And the more vulnerable, or less able to stick up for themselves have to put up, or shut up.

Or risk losing work, opportunities, risk being abused, or fear being thought of as 'difficult' for objecting to everyday sexism, misogyny and abusive language and behaviour.

Many women even just accept it as inevitable 'boys will be boys' behaviour, which is bahoolix, we know men can do far better than that.

It's just can they be bothered ??
What's in it for them??

It's going to take a lot more than head shaking, incredulity, and 'looking the other way' or dismissing as 'bants' behaviours and attitudes which treat women as second class citizens, and worse..

There's only so much 'education' and 'bringing up boys better' that women can do .

And anyway why should we be the ones making all the efforts to effect change, in a culture already created to keep women down, and to silence them with all kinds of pejorative terms if they object.??

Time for the 'good guys' to make a lot more effort.

Not just roll their eyes.

Even supposedly 'right on' men will often let really quite offensive stuff go by, as they don't want to be ostracised by the guys, or made fun of for 'white knighting' or be subject to whatever else is made up to keep the status quo as is.

I'm one of the (mainly) lucky ones, who has had the education, and advantage of birth, so I can assert my rights, and the rights of other women in most situations, but there's only so much a relatively few 'outspoken' women, like me can do..

It's really up to the 'good' men - of whom there are many - to step up and do a lot more.
 
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Awful, just awful. They are the result of a society that breeds a sense of entitlement amongst young men that girls are sexual objects not people with feelings; poor parenting, culture, porn, and a feral 'pack' mentality.

There have been some awful cases in the news recently, apart from the US incident, that just make you despair a bit really. This one really upset me. All murders are heartbreaking but this one just seemed so utterly callous and unnecessary. A reminder too of the dangers that harmless young men face from other men. Pack mentality again.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-61486163.amp
 
theclaud

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I see we are back to square one in #metoo.

I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse. Imagine a powerful man as a ship, like the Titanic. That ship is a huge enterprise. When it strikes an iceberg, there are a lot of people on board desperate to patch up holes...

Indeed.
 
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theclaud said:
I see we are back to square one in #metoo.

I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse. Imagine a powerful man as a ship, like the Titanic. That ship is a huge enterprise. When it strikes an iceberg, there are a lot of people on board desperate to patch up holes...

Indeed.
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I'm guessing you're referring to the Heard Vs Depp case??

So now of course because of this outcome, all those poor beleaguered menz who have(not) been convicted of rape and abuse will be held up as innocent victims of nasty slanderous tales by the women, who must always be.mistrusted...

We can get rid of all the (under)funded refuges, and rest easy knowing that DV is just a figment of our overactive imaginations..

In fact those two women murdered by men every week in this country probs just did it to themselves... 🤔
 
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