Yet more Tory sleaze….

[Deleted member 49]

One of the Red Wall intake of new MPs, enabled by Corbyn's utter naivety*

Yawn....

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Who's that?

View: https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1623016871002882050

 

[C R]

View: https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1623016871002882050

Yep, 30p guy, just saw a piece about him in the graun.

 

[newfhouse]

Looks like 30p Lee’s boss will be in the papers tomorrow too.


View: https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1622844239074787328?s=61&t=Yf7efAeSrOjoq5YAUGCELA

 

[Xipe Totec]

One of the Red Wall intake of new MPs, enabled by Corbyn's utter naivety*
*don't flame me

You don't think there's a tiny microcosm of a possibility that the unwashed masses' rejection of Corbyn in 2019 was perhaps fractionally less to do with his naivety, and perhaps in some small way connected to the entirety of mainstream media devouring itself in its frenzy to portray him as the baby-eating hatechild of Hitler & Fred West?

For clarity, I'm not a Labour supporter/voter.

 

[multitool]

You don't think there's a tiny microcosm of a possibility that the unwashed masses' rejection of Corbyn in 2019 was perhaps fractionally less to do with his naivety, and perhaps in some small way connected to the entirety of mainstream media devouring itself in its frenzy to portray him as the baby-eating hatechild of Hitler & Fred West?

For clarity, I'm not a Labour supporter/voter.

Exactly this.

This was his naivety. When he was elected as leader of the Labour party it was inevitable. It was like waiting for a car crash you knew was coming, and he was an open goal who willingly moved his own posts wider.

Electoral politics is not about morality or truth or honesty. It's about hard-nosed expediency.

 

[Salty seadog]

You don't think there's a tiny microcosm of a possibility that the unwashed masses' rejection of Corbyn in 2019 was perhaps fractionally less to do with his naivety, and perhaps in some small way connected to the entirety of mainstream media devouring itself in its frenzy to portray him as the baby-eating hatechild of Hitler & Fred West?

For clarity, I'm not a Labour supporter/voter.

That or Brexit, we'll never really know what caused those red wall seats to swing.

 

[BoldonLad]

That or Brexit, we'll never really know what caused those red wall seats to swing.

you are probably correct, but, comments like the bolded bit below may just be as much a problem as the supposed influence of the media.

You don't think there's a tiny microcosm of a possibility that the unwashed masses' rejection of Corbyn in 2019 was perhaps fractionally less to do with his naivety, and perhaps in some small way connected to the entirety of mainstream media devouring itself in its frenzy to portray him as the baby-eating hatechild of Hitler & Fred West?

For clarity, I'm not a Labour supporter/voter.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Exactly this.

This was his naivety. When he was elected as leader of the Labour party it was inevitable. It was like waiting for a car crash you knew was coming, and he was an open goal who willingly moved his own posts wider.

Electoral politics is not about morality or truth or honesty. It's about hard-nosed expediency.

Inevitable lol ..You do know that Corbyn gained 3.5m votes in 2017 with a manifesto that accepted the referendum result.Also most Labour MPs represented leave-voting seats.Im sure you also know that Labour lost 52 Leave-voting seats.
I get why most need to play the blame game,but not thinking the last election was basically another Brexit vote I find delusional.

 

[multitool]

All you say is true, but missing point of mine and Xipe's exchange.

It doesn't matter how many votes he gained (whilst still losing). What matters is that he made himself an absolute gift on a plate to the Tories and their client media. It was easy for them.

 

[newfhouse]

View: https://twitter.com/bazakemedia/status/1623030280998031382?s=61&t=Yf7efAeSrOjoq5YAUGCELA

 

[Deleted member 49]

All you say is true, but missing point of mine and Xipe's exchange.

It doesn't matter how many votes he gained (whilst still losing). What matters is that he made himself an absolute gift on a plate to the Tories and their client media. It was easy for them.

Maybe he should of been a little more right wing ? It was one of the most disgusting smear campaigns we've witnessed.If that's what you call a gift to the Tories your right.

 

[Beebo]

View: https://twitter.com/bazakemedia/status/1623030280998031382?s=61&t=Yf7efAeSrOjoq5YAUGCELA

He was a Labour councillor until 2018, but defected to the Tories.
Total arse.

 

[multitool]

Maybe he should of been a little more right wing ? It was one of the most disgusting smear campaigns we've witnessed.If that's what you call a gift to the Tories your right.

Here's how it works...

Rich people have grown rich under the status quo. Anything that threatens the status quo is a risk to their wealth and they will fight it.

Plus they own the media.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Here's how it works...

Rich people have grown rich under the status quo. Anything that threatens the status quo is a risk to their wealth and they will fight it.

Plus they own the media.

So Starmer doesn't threaten that in any way and he's in with a chance.Now I get it thanks.