Yet more Tory sleaze….
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Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
And that 2017 near-miss always makes me reflect on the fact he, unlike his wood-and-Brylcreem successor, would almost certainly have been open to an arrangement with other left-leaning parties to keep the Tories out of power. Shame the then-head of Labour's North Britain Branch Office thought it was such a great idea to exhort Labour voters in Scotland to vote Tory in SNP/Conservative marginals, to "keep the Nationalists out", and in doing so help reduce the SNP from 54 to 35 seats. Look at what we might have won, eh?
Bet that's still a cause of occasional tension in the Dugdale/Gilruth household.
Oh! It was me all along! Me and my haplessly ornate and verbose circumlocutions!
Can't take me anywhere, can you?
C R
Über Member
Obvious parody not obvious, obviously.
I can't tell any more.
multitool
Shaman
Pretty much, yep. See also Tony Blair.
It takes the Tories to be truly awful, and a threat in themselves, for Labour to get a look in...but only if they are centrist.
D
Deleted member 49
Guest
So to win power to change things Labour need to stand on a platform of no change .... and the only time in the last 25 years they gained votes was when they moved left.
I think I'm getting the hang of it,a wins a win right ?
D
Deleted member 49
Guest
No thanks....
albion
Guru
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ngerous-driving-like-drink-french-advert-says
The people Clarkson and the Tory party appeal to. Me me me.
The people Clarkson and the Tory party appeal to. Me me me.
albion
Guru
https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-uk-threatens-council-legal-action-299149?amp
You can also get labour councils pandering to the entitled few. Be it labour selfish are few and fare between.
You can also get labour councils pandering to the entitled few. Be it labour selfish are few and fare between.
multitool
Shaman
Have another decade of Tory then. Then another. Then another.
D
Deleted member 49
Guest
LoL...is that the best you can do ? The lesser of two evils...Totally negative and uninspiring,no positive vision for any change.
I guess it's been like that long enough,why would I bother now.
multitool
Shaman
Its nothing to do with me. What I want and what is likely to happen are not the same things. So you have a radical message? Great!
How are you going to disseminate it?
Oh...in the media? Lol.
Circumstances are likely to be the only way radical movement will happen. eg. post-war socialist healthcare system.
The Tories are utterly ruthless at gaining and holding on to power. You can be as militant as you want, you can be a protest movement à la Corbyn's Labour, but if you want to effect change you have to be in power.
D
Deleted member 49
Guest
Starmer would rather lose councils than admit there's anything good that came out of the Corbyn years or progressive councils.Theres plenty of Labour councilors out there trying there best,there's a reason Preston stayed Labour when everywhere else around here was pissing their pants over Brexit.Dont give me that sh1te of either vote for us or accept the Tories.You don't just lose and give up.
View: https://twitter.com/prestonlabour/status/1619387689056485378?t=c6NEucvFuzptAmK2ugbDlQ&s=19
