Can the (Met) police ever change?

[Salty seadog]

That is nonsense and you know it, the NHS did'nt become ''more militaristic'' when the military helped with the vaccine logistics now did they? But it was just an example, i'm all ear who you would put in the position to re-organise the police in a way i just told above? I think an Army general would be the kind of person able to organise something like that, as that's part of what they need to do in an conflict situation.

I know just the person.

General Taxation.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Not surprised really. Her position had become untenable and it was only a matter of time. Always disappointing when public servants cling on to the job long after they have so clearly lost the public's confidence. No idea who will get the job but it's an opportunity to restore some credibility.

 

[mudsticks]

They're an issue in society generally.

Are you suggesting we recruit off-world? Or perhaps a hermit?

They are a worse problem in some institutions, societies, and sections of society than elsewhere.

We can take cues and clues from places that do better, and implement policy and practices from those places .

Despite a fatalistic attitude in many quarters, it clearly is possible to tackle these problems, what really seems lacking in many cases is the willingness to make the necessary changes.

Or in many cases even a willingness to admit these problems exist.

Trouble is those with the greatest political and social power to make change, are often least affected, so choose not to make much effort.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

So i gave my suggestions although based on the assumption Dick would stay in her position, the question is who's next? And how long for he/she has to resign because some kind of situations, messages etc. from years ago and more recently appear in the daily fail and others causing reactive politicians to call for his/her sacking because sacking is always easyer than fixing the underlying problems...

 

[Fab Foodie]

I know just the person.

General Taxation.

With support from Major Roadworks?

 

[mudsticks]

Here's a few suggestions from those in the know

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/10/who-might-replace-cressida-dick-as-met-commissioner

 

[matticus]

With support from Major Roadworks?

and General Unrest?

 

[BoldonLad]

Here's a few suggestions from those in the know

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/10/who-might-replace-cressida-dick-as-met-commissioner

No chance, their names are not unusual, or pun worthy, enough.

 

[newfhouse]

and General Unrest?

Corporal Punishment would be popular with some.

 

[swansonj]

Here's a few suggestions from those in the know

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/10/who-might-replace-cressida-dick-as-met-commissioner

Is there anything about any of those candidates that makes us think they are better than we thought Dick would be when she was appointed? (sorry, I'm becoming a bit of a stuck record on this)

 

[Deleted member 49]

Is there anything about any of those candidates that makes us think they are better than we thought Dick would be when she was appointed? (sorry, I'm becoming a bit of a stuck record on this)

Jean Charles de Menezes
Continued cover up of the Daniel Morgan murder.
Sarah Everard Policing
Downing Street parties failure
Charing Cross police station
Superintendent Robyn Williams unfair dismissal
Not to mention racism...
It's not so much how she started is it ?

 

[Mugshot]

View: https://twitter.com/JNPhillips4/status/1491858080056889348?s=20&t=fwXlsk3DTYzp_3CW8V1WEQ

 

[mudsticks]

Is there anything about any of those candidates that makes us think they are better than we thought Dick would be when she was appointed? (sorry, I'm becoming a bit of a stuck record on this)

Louisa Rolfe

A leader and specialist on tackling violence against women, the Met assistant commissioner came from being deputy in the West Midlands, and is highly regarded within policing.

Sounds like she might be worth a try..??

 

[Beebo]

View: https://twitter.com/JNPhillips4/status/1491858080056889348?s=20&t=fwXlsk3DTYzp_3CW8V1WEQ

That’s bit harsh. It’s not an easy name to pronounce.

Staying on topic, she should have gone when her contact was up for renewal, but I do think they had anyone to take the job. Not sure what has changed.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Large corporations 'seem' to be able to do this.

The police service as a whole (not just the Met) is unlike any large corporation.

I don't think you'll find another civilian organisation or corporation where your safety, indeed your life, is consistently in the hands of your colleagues on a daily basis. Go against the established norms, get involved in whistle-blowing or raising concerns for correct processes and procedures and you may find yourself left out on a limb when you need help in a hurry. The police culture is very much inward looking and self-preserving. It's an Us v Them environment where Them is everyone who is not Us. Racism, homophobia, misogyny and abuse of powers are prevalent and it's a *very* brave cop who speaks up against any of that.

Stick to their rules of 'no grassing' etc. and you'll have a much easier life. Try to report any questionable or illegal behaviour and you'll become persona non grata very quickly and it won't be pleasant.

This has been ingrained in the service over many, many decades, probably back to its origins. There will be senior ranks who have lengthy service and have seen all of it first hand so know what's going on. Don't expect they'll suddenly want to clamp down on it now when they've never spoken out before.

It's going to be a long, hard task to clean out the rot.