Cardiff electric bike incident

[Electric_Andy]

Blaming whichever colour government is in power, or the council, or social services, or the Police, is a cop-out IMO. I've seen plenty of lads from deprived areas who have never been in trouble with the law, despite only having eggs and bread every day for their main meal. One such guy, also with learning disability, has worked in the local shop since he was 16, he's now 42. Pays for everything himself. His (single) mum went through hell to bring him up properly but succeeded in doing a grand job. Trying to blame everyone else is precisely the attitude of those on the Cardiff street who started a mini riot

 

[C R]

I would point out that a family that can afford a 4k bike for a birthday present isn't a family that could be qualified as deprived, regardless of the area where they live.

 

[Deleted member 49]

I would point out that a family that can afford a 4k bike for a birthday present isn't a family that could be qualified as deprived, regardless of the area where they live.

Pay weekly/monthly/credit card ?

 

[C R]

Pay weekly/monthly/credit card ?

How do they get the credit if their only income is benefits?

 

[Deleted member 49]

How do they get the credit if their only income is benefits?

There's plenty of pay day loans out there.Some call them loan sharks.
They thrive in deprived areas.

 

[Milzy]

How do they get the credit if their only income is benefits?

Who are you Rishi Sunak? Out of touch with the real world.

 

[C R]

There's plenty of pay day loans out there.Some call them loan sharks.
They thrive in deprived areas.

Are loan sharks really lending 4k to a family that lives hand to mouth?

 

[Bromptonaut]

Are loan sharks really lending 4k to a family that lives hand to mouth?

Probably, yes. That or so called 'non status' loans.

ATM we know the bike existed, which of the two it belonged to and that it was a birthday present. Some reports say the donor was an aunt rather than a parent. I'm not sure we know the income and assets of either.

No doubt the full facts will come out over time...

 

[C R]

Who are you Rishi Sunak? Out of touch with the real world.

Maybe I am out of touch. What I know is that the people around here that have that sort of bike are not on benefits. The families that are on benefits don't really have the cash or the ability to get the cash to splurge like that.

 

[multitool]

I'm just waiting for Shep to appear to tell us all about the uneasy relationship between delayed gratification and the underclass

 

[Milzy]

Maybe I am out of touch. What I know is that the people around here that have that sort of bike are not on benefits. The families that are on benefits don't really have the cash or the ability to get the cash to splurge like that.

There’s many on benefits who work cash in hand, sell IPTV lines and drugs. Pick rubbish up for money then fly tip it the list goes on. IPTV alone could get you £1000 on a good week.

 

[Deleted member 121]

What is all this of Benefits, IPTV and drugs and what relevance is it to the dead lads?

 

[Ian H]

What is all this of Benefits, IPTV and drugs and what relevance is it to the dead lads?

I think it's the process of constructing a back-story for them. Be as inventive as you like, the lads won't be there to contradict you.

 

[Milzy]

What is all this of Benefits, IPTV and drugs and what relevance is it to the dead lads?

It means families on benefits can raise cash for luxury items like the bike which killed the two young lads.

 

[Deleted member 121]

It means families on benefits can raise cash for luxury items like the bike which killed the two young lads.

Were these lads families on benefits?