Cardiff electric bike incident

[albion]

Cynical wonders if those rioting were just friends of a similar mindset.

 

[multitool]

Cynical wonders if those rioting were just friends of a similar mindset.

Almost certainly.

That doesn't mean that they don't have legitimate grievances. It's incredibly hard to drag yourself out of a quagmire if you were born into it and want to get out. Everything is against you.

 

[matticus]

What was it that sparked those riots again ?

Don't tell me - was it the police? They're to blame for everything, right?

My priorities would be with two dead kids...not how shall we play this with the media.

Preventing further loss of life (and cars being torched) not a priority then. Good.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Obviously Adam would adapt his line if the teenagers had barrelled into an 80 year old grandma crossing the road, killing her outright.

Only if it was my own grandma obviously 🙄
But they didn't,looks like a terrible accident and they killed themselves.

It would be something about lack of social care for the elderly or closing bingo halls for luxury apartment developments.

Nah more like deprivation,distrust,disillusionment which can have a devastating effect on kids.I never mentioned elderly thats your silly angle.

I grew up in the 70s and 80s and we used to make bombs for fun.

Belfast ?

 

[spen666]

Only if it was my own grandma obviously 🙄
But they didn't,looks like a terrible accident and they killed themselves.

Nah more like deprivation,distrust,disillusionment which can have a devastating effect on kids.I never mentioned elderly thats your silly angle.



Belfast ?

End of debate - rioting is absolutely nothing to do with police


BTW What is achieved by rioting and destroying vehicles and property of those who live nearby to the deceased who had nothing to do with the death?

 

[AndyRM]

Rioting is absolutely nothing to do with police?! Was your tongue in your cheek when you typed that, or are you just referring to this specific incident which nobody knows the full details of?

 

[MrGrumpy]

The police correctly said they were not chasing the criminals at the time of crash.

You have said the police were not chasing them at the time of the crash

View: https://twitter.com/normanbrennan/status/1661661631078711296?s=46&t=u80Bmqsh902nT6dNKR_HqA


Not much of a chase !

 

[BoldonLad]

Why is no one in the media focusing on the illegal bike? What are the police supposed to do? From what I can see they were following at a reasonable distance and safe speed.
What if the bike had hit a toddler or old lady?
It just seems to be a case of easy police bashing.

Quite

 

[BoldonLad]

Maybe the police need to do a little better on their PR work....show some compassion!
Two kids are dead...a year or so younger than my own two.Its heartbreaking,but maybe if you take all public services away from teenagers and offer them very little in the way of a future .Then dont act shocked when they turn to finding their own way of having fun.

Definately, Tories to blame

 

[theclaud]

Rioting is absolutely nothing to do with police

I'm having that as sig material.

 

[matticus]

Definately, Tories to blame

The Guardian said it was a direct consequence of the 1991 Bread Riots (in the same town).

 

[Fab Foodie]

The Guardian said it was a direct consequence of the 1991 Bread Riots (in the same town).

Could they not eat cake?

 

[matticus]

Could they not eat cake?

barabrith, one hopes!

 

[matticus]

Seems to me from what I've read that the police first denied chasing the boys and then admitted they were....otherwise known as lying.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...as-pursuing-teenagers-in-cardiff-force-admits

This is the earliest quote I can find from the police:

"

Assistant Chief Constable Mark Travis said: “First and foremost our thoughts are with families of the two boys who have died following the collision in Ely and with those affected by the disorder which followed.

“These are scenes we do not expect to see in our communities, particularly a close-knit community such as Ely. We received a large number of calls from residents who were understandably frightened by the actions of this large group who were intent on causing crime and disorder.

“The level of violence towards emergency services and the damage to property and vehicles was totally unacceptable."

So THEIR first thoughts are for the families of the two boys.
ADAM's first thought was to accuse the police of lying.

Apparently.

 

[AndyRM]

This is the earliest quote I can find from the police:

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So THEIR first thoughts are for the families of the two boys.
ADAM's first thought was to accuse the police of lying.

Apparently.

Not much experience of the police system then?

I've had good and bad, probably err on the side of the good, but there's plenty of evidence to suggest that the police are regarded with suspicion in a lot of situations.