F*ck the Tories: a Thread Dedicated to Suella Braverman

[mudsticks]

I believe in God because I don't understand why people are sometimes nice to each other...

Don't tell the others Jim, cos they'll think I'm a right old softy..

But sometimes I'm nice to other people cos then it makes me feel all warm and cuddly inside too..

 

[mudsticks]

From the New Testament as I presumed we were talking about God as espoused in Christianity. God as presented in the OT is pretty wrathful on occasions, I admit.

Much a smoting and a smiting, going on...

 

[newfhouse]

God as presented in the OT is pretty wrathful on occasions

You know where you are with the OT. Lots of incest and smiting, men were men and women were happier for it. Amirite?

 

[mudsticks]

You know where you are with the OT. Lots of incest and smiting, men were men and women were happier for it. Amirite?

Solid, manly men, all a'firmed, and a'hewn, from being given a regular good smoting..

 

[winjim]

Don't tell the others Jim, cos they'll think I'm a right old softy..

But sometimes I'm nice to other people cos then it makes me feel all warm and cuddly inside too..

Think about it. That's not soft, it's utterly selfish. Ruthlessly so.

 

[mudsticks]

Think about it. That's not soft, it's utterly selfish. Ruthlessly so.

Shhhhh.

They mustn't find out...

 

[Fab Foodie]

Your dealing with Unkraut, who seems to believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle. It’s an odd view to take.

I'd say it was a common view (sadly)....

 

[Fab Foodie]

The people have spoken....

https://www.theguardian.com/society...ity-research-finds?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

PS: Contains reference to Suella Braverman.

 

[mudsticks]

The people have spoken....

https://www.theguardian.com/society...ity-research-finds?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

PS: Contains reference to Suella Braverman.

Well phew for all that.

But you must also bear in mind the first rule of the Suella Braverman thread

 

[Milkfloat]

You are emoting rather than thinking. It is the church that is doing the accepting as I stated earlier. It's me that is wondering about challenging this.

What's with all the judgement you are indulging in - 'bigoted' and 'peanuts'? I thought we weren't supposed to be judging.

It is a bit rich of you to claim I am emoting when theatrical emotion is exactly what the church is about. As for the judging, this is something we all do every da, except my judgement has not killed hundreds of thousands of people over the years.

 

[FishFright]

Which only proofs that you don't read at all. Nowhere there is any tripe in those posts just a very clean analysis on to whether there is agreement or disagreement and why.
Maybe read it right now? it might learn you something.(even if you don't agree you could learn some conversation skills)

I've seen what passes for analysis with you so I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[FishFright]

The floor is open for you to respond to the specifics in their posts...that might help....

There is nothing of substance to respond to , that's the problem. It's delusional nonsense that bares no comparison to the experience of those in the various trans communities.

Your know about food , how would you respond to a poster who repeatedly says animals are really plants every time the subject of food is brought up ?

 

[AuroraSaab]

You realise you're the one saying this, surely? You're the one saying an animal is a plant if it identifies as one. Can you honestly not see that? To be fair, transplant is an actual thing. It's just not what you think.

 

[Unkraut]

From the New Testament as I presumed we were talking about God as espoused in Christianity. God as presented in the OT is pretty wrathful on occasions, I admit.

What I was getting at was the concept of a loving God comes from the same source as the things many here disagree with.

The love of God and the wrath of God are present in both testaments. The irony is that the wrath of God in the NT is being revealed in a society that embraces LGBT. This is itself the judgement, a society abandoned. A breakdown in human relationships that extends to many of the things regularly complained about here such as #metoo or the ethics of the leave campaign and the govt it has sporned.

 

[mudsticks]

What I was getting at was the concept of a loving God comes from the same source as the things many here disagree with.

The love of God and the wrath of God are present in both testaments. The irony is that the wrath of God in the NT is being revealed in a society that embraces LGBT. This is itself the judgement, a society abandoned. A breakdown in human relationships that extends to many of the things regularly complained about here such as #metoo or the ethics of the leave campaign and the govt it has sporned.

Slightly sputtering here..
But #metoo is about men abusing their power over women, that's been going on for a very looooong time.

For a long time that kind of behaviour has even been seen as a 'God given right'.

It wasn't really spoken about, objected to, or even seen as 'that' much of a problem..

Diminished, derided, dismissed as 'not that bad'

"She was probably asking for it"

"Oh well, men can't help themselves , when it comes to helping themselves"

Etc etc.

It's only since the loosening of the stranglehold of patriachal religion over society that women have really had the voice, or means , strength or solidarity to start challenging this.

Religion has never been the friend of the woman who believed she should have equal rights or status..

Institutionalised religion has repeatedly covered up, or even colluded in abuse of women and children